Portantino at it again: AB1527 long gun open carry ban

[southernsnowshoe]

Nevertheless, we must fight for liberty to our dying breath. It is a fight we will lose, but it is a fight that must be fought nonetheless.

Amen to that, I say we go down with a thud, instead of a whimper.
Why don't about 5,000 of us show up in Sacremento and march with rifles............

[fiddletown]

... Why don't about 5,000 of us show up in Sacremento and march with rifles............

It's really pretty dismaying that you probably actually thing that would help. Just one more reason to not pay attention to you.

[southernsnowshoe]

Amen! I often hike and bike alone in remote areas of the San Bernardino National Forest, but as of Jan 1, I cannot legally open carry for the legitimate and real purpose of personal protection.

Thanks very much, OCers. Before some of you whine, "It's not our fault, it's the legislature's fault". Baloney. It is the OCer's fault for directly prompting them to act and pass this bad law.

Let me be the first to properly diagnose your affliction. You have a condition commonly known as "California Chickenshi* Gun Owners Syndrome" or CCGOS. Don't worry, you are not alone. From what I understand the treatment involves actually reading the constitution of the U.S., and then a surgical procedure to remove the cranium from the anal cavity.

[southernsnowshoe]

It's really pretty dismaying that you probably actually thing that would help. Just one more reason to not pay attention to you.

So you would'nt show up? Gee there's a shock..........come on, I will bring my famous jalepeno dip, we could have a picnic, lol.

[CitaDeL]

Amen to that, I say we go down with a thud, instead of a whimper.
Why don't about 5,000 of us show up in Sacremento and march with rifles............

I think that if you are marching on the Capitol armed with rifles, you'd better have the ability and purpose of cleaning house- and not a demonstration of how nutty gunowners can look in a media feeding frenzy.

No- what would be better is to see the law as it is written diffused and dismissed as irrelevant by 5,000 gunowners openly carrying their handguns in the cities and towns where they live, exploiting the exemptions that the legislature themselves put into the law.

[fiddletown]

... would be better is to see the law as it is written diffused and dismissed as irrelevant by 5,000 gunowners openly carrying their handguns in the cities and towns where they live, exploiting the exemptions that the legislature themselves put into the law.

What makes you think that will have any positive effect?

One predictable effect would be reinforcing the various negative stereotypes many people have about gun owners, thus assuring more support for anti-gun politicians.

Another predictable effect would be to encourage the Legislature to look for ways to eliminate the exemptions.

Doing a thing is not a good idea unless you have some really good reasons to believe it will accomplish what you want to accomplish. And as they say in the practice of medicine, "First, do no harm."




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[CitaDeL]

What makes you think that will have any positive effect?

One predictable effect would be reinforcing the various negative stereotypes many people have about gun owners, thus assuring more support for anti-gun politicians.

Another predictable effect would be to encourage the Legislature to look for ways to eliminate the exemptions.

Doing a thing is not a good idea unless you have some really good reasons to believe it will accomplish what you want to accomplish. And as they say in the practice of medicine, "First, do no harm."

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If our liberty is only usurped in its exercize, shall we restrain our selves so that liberty exists only in captivity? It is utterly absent any percievable logic.

What, if any, negative stereotype is reinforced by an individual openly carrying a handgun in public? In most cases, observers assume the individual is either a police officer or someone who is authorized to carry a weapon openly. Whatever negative stereotype one might imagine then, would be inextricably tied to the performance and perceptions of law-enforcement, armed security guards, and bail bondsmen.

And as to the exemptions. Why would the legislature carefully carve out 116 exemptions to the law? Why would they pick and choose between who should and should not carry an unloaded firearm in public? Specifically, who is the legislature attempting to protect?

One group is the entertainment industry. How willing to burn the entertainment industry do you believe our legislature is by imposing their desires upon the general public? Do you believe that they will eliminate the video production exemption and tell movie studios that they cannot film in downtown Los Angeles or San Fransisco because it now violates the law? Which of the legislators wants to be the person responsible for disarming the gun toting action hero and send a multi-million dollar blockbuster out of state?

These @ss#oles wrote the law to exempt forces with money and jobs and influence. I believe it is incumbent upon us to abide by the law as they wrote it and be the exemption that they wanted their friends to have. They can either accept my exploitation of the loophole they created or burn their friends.

Both are politically reasonable outcomes. Either the politicians relent in their attack on gunowners or they lose the power and influence of the people they were trying to protect with their little tweak in the law.

The Hippocratic oath is based in the axiom "Primum non nocere"... but even doctors prescribe chemotherapy and radiation when confronted by a patient's cancer. Using their law to do what they hate can have a benefit, in the same way chemo has on a tumor.

[BBJohnnyT]

Let me be the first to properly diagnose your affliction. You have a condition commonly known as "California Chickenshi* Gun Owners Syndrome" or CCGOS. Don't worry, you are not alone. From what I understand the treatment involves actually reading the constitution of the U.S., and then a surgical procedure to remove the cranium from the anal cavity.

Sorry, your fingers were typing but you didn't make any sense. If you have something constructive or coherent to share or retort, please do. Otherwise I'm ignoring your lowbrow mutterings. I stand by what I said

[southernsnowshoe]

Sorry, your fingers were typing but you didn't make any sense. If you have something constructive or coherent to share or retort, please do. Otherwise I'm ignoring your lowbrow mutterings. I stand by what I said

I stand by what I said too, I'm sick of a bunch of chickensh*ts laying blame on law abiding, tax paying american citizens for the knee jerk reactions of worthless socialist politicians.