Legality of keeping a long rifle in trunk

[Cokebottle]

On Wednesday, Austin was stabbed to death in Huntington Beach's Lake View Park. According to the OCDA statement, Austin had argued with Shockey in the same park about two weeks before the slaying.

Shockey and Austin had friends with them when they again got into an argument in the park last Wednesday when, around 9:40 p.m., a physical fight escalated with Shockey allegedly taking out a knife and stabbing Austin one time in the chest before the accused attacker and his co-horts scattered.

Sounds more like this confrontation was mutual and went sideways for your friend. Having a gun available would not have ended well for you.
You would be the one up on murder charges, regardless of who pulled the knife/gun first.
ALWAYS de-escalate the situation. Guns are a last resort.

[1savage99]

Cokebottle,

Sounds more like this confrontation was mutual and went sideways for your friend. Having a gun available would not have ended well for you.
You would be the one up on murder charges, regardless of who pulled the knife/gun first.
ALWAYS de-escalate the situation. Guns are a last resort.

PLease explain how you would have de-escalated the situation?

Nathan

[Cokebottle]

PLease explain how you would have de-escalated the situation?

I would not have been in the situation in the first place.

Two groups of teens. They've argued before, recently.
They "just happen" to encounter each other at the same location at almost 10pm and an argument escalates to a stabbing.

We're not talking about two church youth groups here.


I grew up in South Whittier. I partied with friends in areas of Whittier, Montebello, Huntington, Long Beach, and Fullerton.
The closest that I came to any kind of violent encounter was at the Long Beach Marina and my friends and I simply walked away... quickly.

[paul0660]

PLease explain how you would have de-escalated the situation?

Impossible to tell, and it may have been impossible to deescalate depending on its origin.

I think the OP got his answer, as well as some good advice about how to use the firearm he keeps in his trunk........meaning almost never, including the situation he describes.

And, when someone tells a story right off, gets skepticism, and adds factoids to keep the discussion going (and attack the skeptic), it sounds troll-like to me. I had the same thought CB did.

[Lugiahua]

You can carry Mace or Taser in most places, and they work against knife.

[Cokebottle]

You can carry Mace or Taser in most places, and they work against knife.

This.

In California, perhaps pepper spray is the best personal defense weapon until we get shall-issue LTC.
Tasers leave the "anti felony" confetti and in some situations you may just want to GTFO without reporting the incident when you know the other party is not going to report it.
It's cheap, readily available, and readily replaceable, unlike taser cartridges.


But that still does not absolve someone from using common sense and avoiding "situations" in the first place.

[1savage99]

Impossible to tell, and it may have been impossible to deescalate depending on its origin. .

I completely agree.

But just telling him don't be there in the first place is mystical thinking. Walking away doesn't preclude them from chasing him into a worse situation. If your going to give advice to de-escalate then explain how to do it.

But if you really think he's a troll don't' feed him in the first place, and use those retreat and de-escalation skills.

[Maestro Pistolero]

The problem is, 9 times out of 10, if you have time to go to your trunk, open it, retrieve the gun, load it, and aim it.....


...your life was not in immediate danger and you had an opportunity to retreat.
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Is is not uncommon to have indications of an unfolding threat that does not yet require you to shoulder your weapon. So retrieve your weapon, then retreat, if you can.

[Flopper]

You can carry Mace or Taser in most places, and they work against knife.

This. In California, perhaps pepper spray is the best personal defense weapon until we get shall-issue LTC.

+1

It's aggravating to me that many men don't take OC spray seriously, and that so many women don't carry OC because it's "inconvenient". . . personally I think being raped, kidnapped, beaten, killed, etc. would be quite annoying.

[paul0660]

But if you really think he's a troll don't' feed him in the first place, and use those retreat and de-escalation skills.

True, but CB had chimed in twice, trying to be helpful, before the OP went full...........in post 5.

Still, true.

[blackrazor]

Perfectly legal.

Only possible issue is if you open your trunk while within 1000ft of a school, but that would be a Federal violation, as 626.9 does not address long guns.

And since there are thousands of schools in CA, good luck trying to stay over 1000' feet from all of them all the time. Chances are you're probably within 1000' of a school right now.

[ap3572001]

I can think of situations when a rifle or a shotgun and ammo in the trunk CAN make a difference in self defense situation .

Statement , " If You had time to open Your trunk , load a magazine in the rifle, You had time to get away" is NOT correct for every situation.

It takes VERY little time to open the trunk from inside the car, get to the trunk and throw a loded magazine in the Mini -14......

[Librarian]

Since the original question was answered - yes, it's legal to have a trunk gun if you're careful to avoid restricted areas - and the thread is now primarily about the wisdom of all that, and since there is no answer to the 'wisdom' question, we're done here.