Another great article from Bloomberg Businessweek

[ja308]

Im rather confused as to why an anti gunner , who deliberately tried to mislead and confuse his readers on fast and furious gets some sort of recognition ,as being OK , some posters actually elevated this guy!

His rants on mag capacity are nothing short of stupid!

This guy should have a waiting period and a limit on how many words he can write. He is an example of journalistic mayhem at it's finest.

Cal-gunners who followed F+F should be comended for GREAT journalistic objectivity , I am gratefull for the threads on F+F.

[SanPedroShooter]

Okay, I got my copy. I think I paid 17 bucks, but the price is down to 15 at amazon. No sales tax to CA either ha ha.

http://www.amazon.com/Glock-Americas-Paul-M-Barrett/dp/0307719936/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1327535130&sr=8-1

I thought I'd start with the opinion stuff first to get it out of the way, so I read a chapter called something like, "The impact of the Austrian pistol: Is the Glock good for America?"

In it the author speaks to the good and bad of Glocks rise to primacy in the US. He basically writes that the good is that the US police and Citizens get a reliable gun thats easy to use. The bad is the usual stuff VPC stuff about "capacity, caliber and concealability", and this doesnt seem to be strictly his opinion and he points how most of that stuff is hot air.

Its well written and easy to read, similar to a magazine article. It may well have been a magazine article at one point.... Its long on fact and short on editorializing about the usual anti gun nonsense. My issue is this, he writes about how useless, ineffective and basically deceptive the people who would infringe on the 2A are, but then advocates (albeit briefly) for some of their core demands. Restricting magazine capacity, coercing private citizens to use the government to dispose of their private property, ballistic testing (wasnt that proven to be inconclusive and easily manipulated on a large scale?) and allowing people to have access to easily misconstrued ATF trace data (another bad idea).

These musing are probably shorter than the paragraph I wrote to describe them, and Stonewalkers point about squinting is right on. I am excited to read the rest of the more factual portions of the book, and am satisfied that this book will be worth the money.

The final sentence, "Its a company created to do one thing, manufacture and sell pistols. And this Gaston Glock has done extraordinarily well"
I'll add a bit more later.

more later...
After reading the first half of the book, I can say that the few disagrements that I may have with Mr. Barretts personal opinion in no way detracts from the amazing story he tells in this book. You really cant go wrong when you go after a factual history, and thats what I believe I am getting. One good thing about this history is that is shows gun banners as the deluded liars they are, especially in the early days of Glocks introduction into the US market. Not much has changed in that respect, except the truth may be a little easier to find. Especially with a book like "Glock"

PS. Mr. Barrett, if you're ever in LA, let us know, I would like to meet you and ask you to sign my copy. I have a feeling we will all be seeing your name in the future. Thank you.

[gunsandrockets]

Thanx!

gunsand rockets,
Would you kindly give us examples of the NRA fearmongering your 1st sentence referenced above ?
I enjoyed reading your well thought out post.
Regarding a law limiting possesion of more than 10 rds. It would be likely, a scumbag would violate that law, just like the murder law.

Many of us recall the worst mass murder in US history and that was the Puerto Rican nightclub massacre in new york city during the 1990s. AS I recall 92 or so people were killed when this puke used a gas bomb in the crowded club.

The unavailability of guns did not stop this evil man who was intent on murder. He simply found an alternate method. One which actually proved to be worse than a gun.

Studies as you know ,show that when mag capacity is limited , people buy larger calibers
I think it unlikely , Gabby Giffords would have survived a .40/.45/50/ or 44 mag .

Too bad the Bloomberg author did not check into these statistics. But saftey or a safe society was not his focus .

I lamented in gun free Arizona , not 1 person was armed ,to stop this nutcase !

It's nice to know my effort wasn't wasted. At the time I wrote it I should have been sleeping for work the next day instead of pouring out my frustration. I only wish that Paul Barrett himself would read it too and take it to heart.

Other than what I have already said, I'm kind of fuzzy on specifics regarding Paul's attack on the NRA. I only skimmed parts of the book. Suffice to say that every dumb thing you might have heard an anti-gunner accuse the NRA of, there is a very good chance the same accusation is repeated in Paul's book.

Regarding the 10 round ammo limit, of course it wouldn't have any real effect in practice. It's an impossible law to enforce. Which is why I was careful to say it could only work in theory.

The incident you are thinking of is the Happy Land Social Club fire, that killed 87 people back in 1990.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Happy_Land_fire

I thought of bringing it up myself. But It might have detracted from the focus of my critique of Paul's proposal to ban 10+ magazines.

It is true enough though just as you said, that a murderer has many means to slaughter large numbers of people with. In fact in the ranking of the largest numbers of people murdered, the use of firearm barely makes it into the top five. Instead, fire, bombs and plane crashes are the top means of killing large numbers of people.

[ja308]

It's nice to know my effort wasn't wasted. At the time I wrote it I should have been sleeping for work the next day instead of pouring out my frustration. I only wish that Paul Barrett himself would read it too and take it to heart.

Other than what I have already said, I'm kind of fuzzy on specifics regarding Paul's attack on the NRA. I only skimmed parts of the book. Suffice to say that every dumb thing you might have heard an anti-gunner accuse the NRA of, there is a very good chance the same accusation is repeated in Paul's book.

Regarding the 10 round ammo limit, of course it wouldn't have any real effect in practice. It's an impossible law to enforce. Which is why I was careful to say it could only work in theory.

The incident you are thinking of is the Happy Land Social Club fire, that killed 87 people back in 1990.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Happy_Land_fire

I thought of bringing it up myself. But It might have detracted from the focus of my critique of Paul's proposal to ban 10+ magazines.

It is true enough though just as you said, that a murderer has many means to slaughter large numbers of people with. In fact in the ranking of the largest numbers of people murdered, the use of firearm barely makes it into the top five. Instead, fire, bombs and plane crashes are the top means of killing large numbers of people.

Thank you for your informative post along with the link "happy land fire"
I forgot the name ,year and numbers , you have corrected the record .
I enjoyed your critique on Mr PB .

[proclone1]

Listening to book interview on NPR.

http://www.npr.org/2012/01/24/145640473/how-the-glock-became-americas-weapon-of-choice

Its a little irritating to hear him yack on and on about "high capacity ammunition magazines"...

Give it up Paul, its never gonna happen, not anytime soon. I dont know, hearing you talk, sort of makes me like you less and less....

Its kinda not his fault, Terri keeps setting him up with these lame *** softballs. Teri: "So the shooting in tucson is cause of high capcity clips, right paul...?"

"Well you're right terri, great question..."


I think he makes up for a lot at the end though, still a good a listen.

This is basically how I feel as well. I thought it was terribly slanted towards the Anti side up until the last 3 minutes of the interview, when they actually talked about 2A rights almost. The language up until then was the tired ignorant side of the Anti's.

[Blackhawk556]

gunsand rockets,
Would you kindly give us examples of the NRA fearmongering your 1st sentence referenced above ?
I enjoyed reading your well thought out post.
Regarding a law limiting possesion of more than 10 rds. It would be likely, a scumbag would violate that law, just like the murder law.

Many of us recall the worst mass murder in US history and that was the Puerto Rican nightclub massacre in new york city during the 1990s. AS I recall 92 or so people were killed when this puke used a gas bomb in the crowded club.

The unavailability of guns did not stop this evil man who was intent on murder. He simply found an alternate method. One which actually proved to be worse than a gun.

Studies as you know ,show that when mag capacity is limited , people buy larger calibers
I think it unlikely , Gabby Giffords would have survived a .40/.45/50/ or 44 mag .

Too bad the Bloomberg author did not check into these statistics. But saftey or a safe society was not his focus .

I lamented in gun free Arizona , not 1 person was armed ,to stop this nutcase !

This guy was a CCW holder. Forward to 2:20

[ja308]

This guy was a CCW holder. Forward to 2:20

Thank you for posting this .
Did I hear correctly ,someone had a gun on this nutcase?