Henry AR7 Transport/Carry Legalities

[Aldemar]

What restrictions apply to this when it is completely broken down? It seems like an ideal piece to keep in your trunk or at the office. I am concerned due to the length when disassembled. In other words, when is it a rifle, when is it a pistol or when is it neither?

Henry's site lists several California dealers so I assume it's available here.

http://www.henryrepeating.com/rifle-survival-ar7.cfm

[itisagoodname]

18.5" barrel, 8 round mag, should be good to go.

Do you consider your lower receiver minus the upper a pistol?

From the pic the chamber is in the barrel so there is no way to fire without it.

I actually really want one of these now.

Now if you could just lock the cover on the stock you'd have a locked container as well!

[Stonewalker]

A bare receiver is considered a firearm. It's the serialized/tracked part, and if you have that then you've got a gun. The disassembled AR7 is treated exactly like any other locked-up rifle. Keep it unloaded for transport. And by the way - I've had the same idea too! I've considered buying 3 or 4 and keeping them in strategic locations, along with a brick of .22.

[ENVYGREEN]

Wife got one for Christmas and she really likes it. Stock is big but it's fun and a novel design

[Code7inOaktown]

Wife got one for Christmas and she really likes it. Stock is big but it's fun and a novel design

How is the reliably of it? I've seen a few comments where people say the Marlin Papoose is preferred but who knows.

[Redyourdead]

I like my Henry AR7. Im sure the marlin wont float on water and protect it from harsh environment when disassembled.

[ENVYGREEN]

so far so good. Unlike some calgunners since I don't have anything like it compare to I won't

[Aldemar]

A bare receiver is considered a firearm. It's the serialized/tracked part, and if you have that then you've got a gun. The disassembled AR7 is treated exactly like any other locked-up rifle. Keep it unloaded for transport. And by the way - I've had the same idea too! I've considered buying 3 or 4 and keeping them in strategic locations, along with a brick of .22.

So lets say there is some sort of catastrophe and I need to walk home from work; about 8 miles. If I am walking with the receiver hidden in the stock am I then carrying a concealed weapon? GFSZ's are impossible to avoid on any route I may take. Legally, I may be better off carrying it fully assembled (yeah, I know the cops are another matter).

[FXR]

My brother whipped up a locking mechanism for this rifle, more for security concerns than for compliance issues, which we were unaware of a few years ago. Good thing we never drove through any school zones. Anyway, you need to get a couple feet of cable (we used 3/16), a few swages and a swage tool, and some heat shrink tubing. Make a loop of cable that can fit around the stock from the front but not slip over the back, add 2 extra swages and 2 pieces of heat shrink big enough to cover the swages, (one twice as big as the other) and use one swage to lock this loop together. Take 2 pieces of cable, swage a small loop into the end, and cover the swage with heat shrink. Connect these loops with the lock of your choice and experiment with the leg length needed to hold the back cover securely on. (It's more secure if you have the loops facing opposite directions so they cross diagonally over the back and use the swage connecting the ends of the main hoop next to one of the other ones so the whole assembly can't rotate.) Once you get the length right, cut and swage the legs and heat the heat shrink. Your barrel, receiver, and spare loaded mag are now secure in a locking, hard sided case - you could even fly with this!

*I suggest buying spare cable and swages as we went through several prototypes before getting one that couldn't be manipulated open.

[1JimMarch]

The Henry version has a much better rep than the previous incarnation under a previous version of Charter Arms. The design is good - Eugene Stoner built the first one . The original wood-stocked Armalite type even made an appearance in a 1960s James Bond film so it's got cool points .

[MudCamper]

It's a rifle. There are no concealment or transport restrictions, except for maybe the federal school zone law, which for all practical purposes you don't need to worry about.

[Aldemar]

My brother whipped up a locking mechanism for this rifle, more for security concerns than for compliance issues, which we were unaware of a few years ago. Good thing we never drove through any school zones. Anyway, you need to get a couple feet of cable (we used 3/16), a few swages and a swage tool, and some heat shrink tubing. Make a loop of cable that can fit around the stock from the front but not slip over the back, add 2 extra swages and 2 pieces of heat shrink big enough to cover the swages, (one twice as big as the other) and use one swage to lock this loop together. Take 2 pieces of cable, swage a small loop into the end, and cover the swage with heat shrink. Connect these loops with the lock of your choice and experiment with the leg length needed to hold the back cover securely on. (It's more secure if you have the loops facing opposite directions so they cross diagonally over the back and use the swage connecting the ends of the main hoop next to one of the other ones so the whole assembly can't rotate.) Once you get the length right, cut and swage the legs and heat the heat shrink. Your barrel, receiver, and spare loaded mag are now secure in a locking, hard sided case - you could even fly with this!

*I suggest buying spare cable and swages as we went through several prototypes before getting one that couldn't be manipulated open.

Interesting idea. If we take this one step further, it looks as though there is enough "meat" in the upper front of the stock to drill a hole to pass a pin thru (look at the "xray" pic of the stock on the website). If you drill a hole thru each side of the pin, you could make some kind of shackle to wrap around the back of the stock and lock to the other side of the pin.

I'd like to see a pic of your brothers locking device if it's available.

[furyous68]

My brother has one of the earlier versions... I need to get one as I like to go backpacking a lot & this would be perfect!

Too bad they don't make one in .22mag. I don't think it would increase the size of the receiver that much.

[MudCamper]

Too bad they don't make one in .22mag.

Now THAT I'd have to have.

[Cokebottle]

So lets say there is some sort of catastrophe and I need to walk home from work; about 8 miles. If I am walking with the receiver hidden in the stock am I then carrying a concealed weapon? GFSZ's are impossible to avoid on any route I may take. Legally, I may be better off carrying it fully assembled (yeah, I know the cops are another matter).

Not a handgun, therefore PC12025 (and it's replacement with the renumbered PC) would not apply.

Not a handgun, therefore PC626.9 (California GFSZ) would not apply, though you would still be in violation of the Federal GFSZ law.