Parole papers as gvt id

[Scarecrow Repair]

This first came up several months ago when talking to a local shop, and other than getting a good laugh out of the dealer and other customers, no one had a clue as to the answer.

Are there crimes for which you can be paroled which do not ban you from buying a gun?

IOW, is it possible that someone could use their parole papers as the government-issued documentation required to buy a gun?

Not that I'm planning on committing such a crime just to raise some eyebrows .... but it's sort of like flying to Australia and answering the immigration question "Are you a criminal?" with "Is that still a requirement?". It would be a great item for the bucket list.

[dustoff31]

Parole means state prison. State prison means felony conviction. So no, that wouldn't fly.

Now, probation papers might be another story. One often gets probation for minor non violent misdemeanors.

[ke6guj]

there are some felonies that arefederally exempted from the prohibtion of buying/possessing a firearm. But CA doesn't honor those exemptions.

[Ubermcoupe]

What if the felony were already taken care of (reduced & expunged- assuming it was a “wobler”)?

The papers could be a form of Gov’t ID/2nd residency no?

(Granted the papers would probably expire by the time all that legal stuff happened...)

not trying to stir it up, just spit-ballin’ - while I LMAO

[Mssr. Eleganté]

Don't quote me on this, but I thought that for a felony conviction to be eligible to be reduced to a misdemeanor, the original sentence could not have involved prison time. So if you are convicted of a felony "wobbler" and sentenced to probation or jail time then you might later have the felony reduced. But if you are sentenced to prison time then you can't get it reduced to a misdemeanor.

How about if you get sentenced to six years in prison, paroled after two years for good behavior, then the next day DNA evidence proves you were innocent and the Governor grants you a full pardon. Maybe then you could use your parole papers as a second proof of residency.

[Doppelgänger]

Speeding tickets, court papers, jury summons, etc. all work.

Is there no such thing as misdemeanor parole? (i.e. someone gets sentenced to 350 days in county jail, they cut them loose after 300 days under special conditions?)

[huntercf]

Speeding tickets, court papers, jury summons, etc. all work.

Is there no such thing as misdemeanor parole? (i.e. someone gets sentenced to 350 days in county jail, they cut them loose after 300 days under special conditions?)

No, parole is solely used for release from prison not jail. If you are released from jail early they call it "released early for good behavior or overcrowding".

[Goosebrown]

I thought that if you committed a felony and wanted to get a gun, you had to get a "factual finding of innocence" from a judge that basically meant that the whole thing was a mistake from the very beginning. Such things do exist apparently.

[Ubermcoupe]

How about if you get sentenced to six years in prison, paroled after two years for good behavior, then the next day DNA evidence proves you were innocent and the Governor grants you a full pardon. Maybe then you could use your parole papers as a second proof of residency.

[Scarecrow Repair]

How about if you get sentenced to six years in prison, paroled after two years for good behavior, then the next day DNA evidence proves you were innocent and the Governor grants you a full pardon. Maybe then you could use your parole papers as a second proof of residency.

I've learned more about parole and probation than I thought I would, and so far, this looks like the only way possible. I don't think I'll be trying it :-)

[locosway]

Here is something interesting... In short, he was arrested and convicted for possession of a handgun after being convicted of a felony. However, state law restored his rights, therefore he was able to appeal the conviction and have it overturned.

202 F3d 1320 United States v. Tait

[T]his Court finds that Michigan law provides for the automatic reinstatement of all civil rights of convicted felons following release from custody and completion of probation. Thus, once [the defendant] completed his sentence ..., all or essentially all of [his] civil rights-namely, his right to vote, to hold public office, and to serve on a jury-were "restored automatically by the force of the very [Michigan] laws that suspend[ed] them."

http://openjurist.org/202/f3d/1320/united-states-v-tait

[SanPedroShooter]

I belive on parole, you are still technically in prison and state property, even if you arent physically behind bars anymore. Probation is more like a second chance to behave type deal.