gunsmith's 2A predictions thread for 2012

[grammaton76]

Ban on long gun open carry will be introduced - unsure if it'll pass.

If national reciprocity passes, most likely it'll be crippled via restrictions on non-resident permits. So some guy from Arizona can carry here, but we won't be able to.

[CCWFacts]

Be sure to verify that they have an HSC. State law requires the recipient of a temporary transfer to have a current HSC. No HSC, no loan of a handgun. Gun laws must ALL be followed!

Obviously, I would only lend a gun to someone who is already an NRA member and a gun owner, therefore the only people I would lend to are people who don't need it.

I'm merely bringing up that, if the Chosen One does not win a 2nd term next year, it's going to be a hot night in Los Angeles and a lot of my liberal friends will wish they had thought more deeply about current circumstances. I hope they do ok without my assistance. All they will need is an "Obama 2012" bumper sticker and they'll be alright, right? It's all mutual? Wealth redistribution will buy peace on the streets I'm sure?

Seriously, there was tension in LA on election night 2008. I wasn't the only one who noticed this. There were more LAPD helicopters than usual in central LA. If by some chance the Chosen One is a one-termer I think it will be an "exciting" night. And my anti-gun liberal friends will be able to count on LAPD's prompt assistance, not on mine.

[MontClaire]

I predict left and rigth go at it, spills to the streets, supermarkets, townhalls and everywhere else. "Occupy Everything" will take new cash infusion from overseas interests bent on to finish us off. Many will pack and leave wherever they came from. The rest of us will buy stuff on the cheap before manufacturers adjust output because of low demand. New faces in politics from all walks of life. New political parties to be formed. More niche rather then umbrella party. It's going to be exciting.

[Common]

I AGREE!!!!

This is super-important.



Yes. It doesn't matter who the Republican nominee is, Obama's appointments would be unbelievably worse. If Obama can appoint one or two justices, as you say, we won't even recognize this country in ten years.

Conservative be not too conservative. We do not need the pendulum to swing too far right either. In fact I would like a couple of chimpanzees to be nominated. They have nice big smiles!.

I think that chimps would agree that we need more bananas and that a big booty on a woman is kinda nice when it is cold.

[Mulay El Raisuli]

Obviously, I would only lend a gun to someone who is already an NRA member and a gun owner, therefore the only people I would lend to are people who don't need it.

I'm merely bringing up that, if the Chosen One does not win a 2nd term next year, it's going to be a hot night in Los Angeles and a lot of my liberal friends will wish they had thought more deeply about current circumstances. I hope they do ok without my assistance. All they will need is an "Obama 2012" bumper sticker and they'll be alright, right? It's all mutual? Wealth redistribution will buy peace on the streets I'm sure?

Seriously, there was tension in LA on election night 2008. I wasn't the only one who noticed this. There were more LAPD helicopters than usual in central LA. If by some chance the Chosen One is a one-termer I think it will be an "exciting" night. And my anti-gun liberal friends will be able to count on LAPD's prompt assistance, not on mine.

I'm not so sure. I have a niece who was all for The Chosen One back in '08. She was young (19) & fell HARD for the "Hope & Change" mantra. But about a year ago, she mentioned that she "might have been wrong about that." My niece isn't the finest political mind out there, but even she can see that (at least a bit) that Obama ain't the way.

OK, that's just one girl & so I'm not going to claim that good sense is spreading like wildfire through the younger voters, but an Obama loss might not be taken so hard as you think.

Maybe. Perhaps.


The Raisuli

[CCWFacts]

OK, that's just one girl & so I'm not going to claim that good sense is spreading like wildfire through the younger voters, but an Obama loss might not be taken so hard as you think.

It's going to be taken quite hard by the welfare-dependent segments of our society, a group which is doing badly due to structural changes in our economy, and which is not ever going to recover or improve for them. Your niece was voting for ideals (hope and change), not for her sustenance, so when (let's hope) The Chosen One is booted out, she may or may not be sad, but she's not thinking it's going to determine her financial situation.

The welfare-dependent segments of our society didn't vote based on any ideals. "Hope and change" was for white liberals. Financial self-interest, together with a dollop of racial solidarity, was a driving factor for the other part of Obama's voter base, those factors are a lot more powerful and visceral than the ideals white liberals were voting for.

Austerity is coming. Borrowing $1.5tril a year doesn't go on forever. Everyone can see this, and everyone knows you can't cut $1tril out of a budget without making a lot of cuts. There will be massive public sector cutbacks, plus likely to be cutbacks in welfare programs. The cutbacks will be big with Obama in a 2nd term, and will be huge if Obama is replaced. Everyone can see this is coming, and it's going to make for some "exciting" times in some areas.

If The Chosen One loses, mark my prediction, election night will be a "busy" night in many US cities. The "Occupy" movement is just a warm-up.

[NotEnufGarage]

10 day wait ruled unconstitutional. Kamala Harris explodes, her replacement appeals.

Emboldened by that success, Gene opens his standard cap mag store and files a lawsuit challenging the constitutionality of the AWB on the same day. Kamala's replacement, not wanting to explode acquiesces.

CalGuns and Sacramento Valley Shooting Center hold the states largest Shoot-N-Que. CalGunners from Redding to San Diego drive hours for tri-tip and chicken and the smell of smokeless powder.

Sacramento's C3 coordinators awake from their coma's and begin to organize local events. They even set up tables at some of the local gunshows!

Eric Holder, Lanny Breuer and Ken Melson extradite by Mexico, found guilty of illegally importing weapons into Mexico and sentenced to 50 years in a Mexican prison. Each assigned a 350lb cellmate who like skinny men.

President Obama impeached when emails are discovered on his secret Blackberry showing he not only knew about but helped plan F&F, as did Joe Biden. The House begins impeachment proceedings, sends the findings to the Senate and Wayne LaPierre pressures his buddy Harry Reid into seeing that a finding of guilt is returned. Both are immediately removed from office and John Boehner crys when he becomes the new President. HuffPo, the Brady Bunch, AFL-CIO and numerous other liberal organizations cease all political activities when it is shown they facilitated the coverup.

I know.. I shouldn't drink this early in the morning.

[monk]

I predict people will be drinking, eating, and generally having a good time. Other people will be ****ting bricks. Either way, fun all around.

[GNSLGR1]

We all find out the Mayans were right and the world comes to an end.
Sorry, no zombies for you nut jobs to shoot at.

[Gray Peterson]

SCOTUS will accept Peterson or Kachalsky by the end of this year.

[stix213]

* CGF pushes through legal LCM sales in California
* SCOTUS decides to take up a carry case, to be decided around June 2013
* Nordyke gives us a better decision than last time, now that they have seen the way from the other circuits
* Virtual shall issue comes to California from one of the two carry cases on appeal, in part because UOC can no longer be used as an excuse for not issuing permits. Anti-gunners statewide curse their own short sightedness in pushing for the urban UOC ban.
* National reciprocity gets filibustered in the senate, and stalls
* E checks found unconstitutional
* AWB found unconstitutional, but followed quickly by new similar legislation, which we'll then see who's side JB is really on

[Mr. Beretta]

1.) PPT fees will double.

2.) Additional "fees" will be imposed on all firearm and ammo sales.

3.) The amount of ammo (all types) that can be purchased at one time, will be regulated and restricted.

4.) Additional restrictions and mandated guild lines will be imposed upon FFL's.

5.) There will be additional "fees" (translation...taxes) on anything firearm related.

[Tarn_Helm]

one year closer

please list yours

My predictions are:
Hillary gets VP ticket with Obama - we freaking panic / gun sales hit new high.
Obama reluctantly signs national reciprocity, blameburg panics.
Ruger intro's LCP type gun in .40S&W.
We win important lawsuits ending AWB's nationwide.
Another shooting at a college, that could have been prevented by an armed citizen, brings campus carry into national focus.
TSA starts to monitor everything bringing new round of lawsuits because they cannot understand national reciprocity.

Regarding the above: Maybe.

For sure: I get one year closer to retiring in Arizona.

[Mulay El Raisuli]

It's going to be taken quite hard by the welfare-dependent segments of our society, a group which is doing badly due to structural changes in our economy, and which is not ever going to recover or improve for them. Your niece was voting for ideals (hope and change), not for her sustenance, so when (let's hope) The Chosen One is booted out, she may or may not be sad, but she's not thinking it's going to determine her financial situation.

That's all true.

The welfare-dependent segments of our society didn't vote based on any ideals. "Hope and change" was for white liberals. Financial self-interest, together with a dollop of racial solidarity, was a driving factor for the other part of Obama's voter base, those factors are a lot more powerful and visceral than the ideals white liberals were voting for.

Austerity is coming. Borrowing $1.5tril a year doesn't go on forever. Everyone can see this, and everyone knows you can't cut $1tril out of a budget without making a lot of cuts. There will be massive public sector cutbacks, plus likely to be cutbacks in welfare programs. The cutbacks will be big with Obama in a 2nd term, and will be huge if Obama is replaced. Everyone can see this is coming, and it's going to make for some "exciting" times in some areas.

If The Chosen One loses, mark my prediction, election night will be a "busy" night in many US cities. The "Occupy" movement is just a warm-up.

I hadn't considered any of this. I think you're right.

Which means instead of stocking up after the election, I'm going to have to do so before.

I know.. I shouldn't drink this early in the morning.

No, you shouldn't.


The Raisuli

[CCWFacts]

I hadn't considered any of this. I think you're right.

• Many high-paying low-skill gov't jobs are being cut. USPS is cutting about 300,000 jobs, and many other entities (fed. and local) will be making similarly huge cuts. Many blacks rely on these jobs because they are stable, require low skill, and pay quite well.
• Austerity is coming, meaning that there won't be some kind of welfare to prop up those laid off people.
• These are STRUCTURAL changes. Those hundreds of thousands of government jobs are NOT coming back, even when the economy recovers. There will not be any low-skilled jobs to replace them, and the people who relied on those low-skill gov't jobs will find themselves with NO employment options. NOTHING. They will not be hirable by ANYONE. Would you hire someone who has spent the past 20 years being unhelpful at the DMV and has no identifiable skills? I realize that liberals believe that job training can cure this, but it can't. Job training programs only work when there's a gov't employer ready to scoop up the trainees, and there won't be any gov't employers with the budget for that.
• A significant segment of our society (disproportionately black) will slip from their current artificial middle class life into poverty.

What are these people going to do? Nothing. They will slip into poverty. Not government-defined poverty, which includes owning a car, a cellphone, a TV and a refrigerator, plus foodstamps, healthcare and Section 8. No, I'm talking about real poverty, something that's unfamiliar to Americans.

And they can see this coming. They're currently hoping that Obama will magically prevent it, but he can't, because the trillions of dollars are not under his control. These trillions of dollars are under Chinese control and the Chinese don't care at all about our social problems. The one thing Obama can do in a 2nd term is to start printing money (quantitative easing), which a Republican would probably not do. Again, the gov't-dependent classes may think that printing $$$ will save them. Just liked it saved them in Zimbabwe I guess.

This situation is a lot more real than the abstract ideals liberals were voting for.