Handgun transfer legal question

[crunchy]

In a nutshell:

Family friend widowed a few years back. Finds revolver buried in back of closet recently and wants it gone (nice 66-1 S&W 4".) Asks me to help her sell it or she's going to turn it in to PD for destruction.

Widow refuses to do DOJ mail-in paperwork to put revolver into her own name. Refuses to do FTF transfer with potential buyers. Local gunshop refuses to buy outright or do consignment sale as revolver is not reg'd to widow. Nothing wrong with revolver's history (not stolen etc.) but she's being stubborn and crotchety. She has said she'd just give the thing to me but I don't think that's possible without a FTF DROS and I'd rather get her some much needed cash.

My thought is the only legal way to avoid having her scrap the wheelgun is to ship to FFL for final disposition with a buyer, inside of CA or out.

OK Calguns legal experts, am I on the right track, or am I smoking crack?

Thanks for your input.

[paul0660]

It is hers already, because she is a surviving spouse. The gun does not have to be registered, the gun shop's attitude is incorrect.

Bribe her with lunch and stop by the gun store on the way home for a PPT.

[HowardW56]

It is hers already, because she is a surviving spouse. The gun does not have to be registered, the gun shop's attitude is incorrect.

Bribe her with lunch and stop by the gun store on the way home for a PPT.

[Flintlock Tom]

Go to your local transfer dealer, the one you use when buying a gun on-line. Tell him someone is shipping you a gun for transfer.
Have the widow, or you do it for her, ship the gun to your transfer dealer, with a copy of her ID.
Transfer to you just like an on-line sale. Pay outrageous fees.
Done.

[crunchy]

Awesome, thanks for the advice everyone. I may put it up here in the classifieds.

[paul0660]

Go to your local transfer dealer, the one you use when buying a gun on-line. Tell him someone is shipping you a gun for transfer.
Have the widow, or you do it for her, ship the gun to your transfer dealer, with a copy of her ID.
Transfer to you just like an on-line sale. Pay outrageous fees.
Done.

This is not a bad idea either. BTW, since you are personally known to the woman, she can lend it to you for 30 days. In that time, you can transport it to the FFL and start the more expensive transfer, vs. PPT, process. He will need a copy of her DL or other ID.

[bwiese]

Go to your local transfer dealer, the one you use when buying a gun on-line. Tell him someone is shipping you a gun for transfer. Have the widow, or you do it for her, ship the gun to your transfer dealer, with a copy of her ID.
Transfer to you just like an on-line sale. Pay outrageous fees.
Done.

Standard S&W Model 66 wheelguns are not Rostered, so a PPT or a lineal intrafamily xfer is required.

So nice try, won't work (without extra work).

PPTs require face to face meeting at FFL, with supplying party having some CA ID.

[Now, she could run it as a consignment but she still has to go to FFL w/ID etc.]

If shipping the non-Rostered handgun to another CA FFL, it's not sellable in California to another Californian except if it's converted to a dimensionally compliant 12133PC Roster-exempt single-action revolver.

[paul0660]

wiese is right. My second idea won't work. PPT or nothing.........make it a nice lunch, and open the doors for her.

[Librarian]

[Meta-topic]

What is in the air this week?

This is the second thread today where someone thought to be jocular by suggesting an illegal act.

Like Caesar's wife, we have a reputation; we have to consistently learn, know, follow, and advise others to follow the laws as they are -- all the while planning and financing the campaign to get them changed for the better.

// Librarian

[Decoligny]

Is there any CGN member in the area who is an FFL who would be willing to go to the widow's home with the OP in order to do the PPT? Not sure if this can be done legally, but if it can, it might be the answer.

OP can then sell the gun to someone else, and if he wishes for the widow to benefit from the proceeds of his sale of his gun, that is his business.

[Quiet]

Is there any CGN member in the area who is an FFL who would be willing to go to the widow's home with the OP in order to do the PPT? Not sure if this can be done legally, but if it can, it might be the answer.

Per Federal laws, FFL dealers can only conduct transfers at their place of business or at a gun show.