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  • #31
    IrishJoe3
    Veteran Member
    • Feb 2009
    • 3804

    Originally posted by Meplat
    I thought all CA LEO's were required to be armed at all times. I know it is often honored in the breach, but I think that is policy.
    Law no, dept policy, maybe.
    Urban legends are a poor basis for making public policy.

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    • #32
      BigDogatPlay
      Calguns Addict
      • Jun 2007
      • 7362

      Originally posted by bcj128
      We are prohibited from associating with a known felon, the only exception if family where you will inevitably bump into them from time to time at family functions.
      The other exemption is while engaged in an ongoing investigation.

      Originally posted by Cokebottle
      Ya... if anything, the issue would be more harsh for the LEO than for a regular private citizen.
      It always makes me smile a bit when it's pointed out, correctly in this case, that there really is a different standard for LEOs. While it so often seems that we are treated 'special', typically that special treatment involves no use of lube when the department comes up our stovepipes.

      Originally posted by Meplat
      I thought all CA LEO's were required to be armed at all times. I know it is often honored in the breach, but I think that is policy.
      There is no requirement in the law that a peace officer be armed at all times. I seriously doubt that there is any department in this state still mandating that in their policy as it would make a serious pay and hours problem. Requiring me to be armed means that I would be required to take peace officer action 24/7... which means I am on duty 24/7.

      Think that overtime bill is big now?
      -- Rifle, Pistol, Shotgun

      Not a lawyer, just a former LEO proud to have served.

      Americans have the right and advantage of being armed - unlike the citizens of other countries whose governments are afraid to trust the people with arms. -- James Madison

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      • #33
        bigb0886
        Member
        • Jun 2011
        • 313

        Very helpful thanks everybody

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        • #34
          bcj128
          Member
          • Jan 2009
          • 462

          Originally posted by BigDogatPlay
          The other exemption is while engaged in an ongoing investigation.

          Well said.

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          • #35
            BobB35
            Senior Member
            • Nov 2008
            • 782

            Originally posted by Ron-Solo
            Yeah, I don't think so. Said LEO would be required by policy of most departments to immediately notify his/her department of the situation. Mst department policies prohibit association with felons. Some departments, it will get you terminated.

            And, in my opinion, any LEO worth his salt who associates with a felon, isn't with his salt.


            And, in the OP's post, there is only an arrest for a felony, NOT a conviction. Huge difference there.

            LEO would not get any special treatment, only extra scrutiny here. Sadly, your vain attempt to show special treatment to LE backfires here.
            Ah yes, that makes a lot of sense becasue in the state of CA the definition of a Felon is limited to Thugs, rapists, and murders.....what a joke this state has become...when mere possession of some scary looking metal and plastic tube is considered a felony and people get convicted for it. Thing that are felonies in this state are perfectly legal in 40 others. Of course our resident LEO apologist then thinks that anyone who associate with some who is convicted of one of these "felonies" isn't worth their "salt". Hmm how about those LEO that kill people under color of authority, abuse their privileges under color of authority, commit real Felonies under color of authority aren't worth their Salt. What an F'nn joke this state has become, but we get the govt we deserve....

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            • #36
              scrat
              Senior Member
              • Apr 2007
              • 1516

              Guy 2 gets charged with several felonies including weapons charges but is out on bail.
              Guy has only been charged with felonies not convicted. I think the matter changes if he is convicted of a felony
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              • #37
                Ron-Solo
                In Memoriam
                • Jan 2009
                • 8581

                Originally posted by BobB35
                Ah yes, that makes a lot of sense becasue in the state of CA the definition of a Felon is limited to Thugs, rapists, and murders.....what a joke this state has become...when mere possession of some scary looking metal and plastic tube is considered a felony and people get convicted for it. Thing that are felonies in this state are perfectly legal in 40 others. Of course our resident LEO apologist then thinks that anyone who associate with some who is convicted of one of these "felonies" isn't worth their "salt". Hmm how about those LEO that kill people under color of authority, abuse their privileges under color of authority, commit real Felonies under color of authority aren't worth their Salt. What an F'nn joke this state has become, but we get the govt we deserve....
                Whiskey Tango Foxtrot? Did I come in and attack you? You obviously don't have a clue how hard it is to get convicted of a felony in this state. You come in and rant about LE "abusing" their authority like I support it.

                I believe that any LEO who violates the trust placed in them deserves to face the fullest extent of the law and department policy. I have said that many times.

                Show me where I have ever supported any LEO who has committed an act of misconduct. Your insinuations are inappropriate. Argue your point with facts and keep your personal attacks to yourself.
                Last edited by Ron-Solo; 12-19-2011, 11:17 AM.
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                • #38
                  Wherryj
                  I need a LIFE!!
                  • Mar 2010
                  • 11085

                  Originally posted by jgraham7897
                  Why does it have to be a LEO, let's make it an average citizen.
                  Does it make a difference if it's a hypothetical LEO or a real LEO?
                  "What is a moderate interpretation of the text? Halfway between what it really means and what you'd like it to mean?"
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                  I like my guns like the left likes their voters-"undocumented".

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