LEO reports training on 12020 "changes"

[Falstaff]

Close friend of mine who is a Leo reports he attended training on the upcoming changes to 12020. He wasn't real clear on this himself as best he could figure the statute has been split up an re-numbered in a very confusing manner. The LA asst. DA conducting the training was less than pleased with the "legislature" for this latest waste of time and money.

Is he talking about AB144 or what? He specifically said "12020 is being split up into several new penal code sections in the 25 thousands" (I may have the numbers wrong, can't remember exactly)
Just when I thought I had a basic understanding of the law in regards to firearms....

[Andy Taylor]

So the laws are not confusing enough? Apparently a few people were able to understand them, so they had to change that.

[Phouty]

Just when I thought I had a basic understanding of the law in regards to firearms....

...................they changed the code.
Here is your answer!
I see AT was faster.

[I open carry]

Yes, 12020 is the unlawful carrying of a firearm.
The CPC that will be rewritten because of AB144.
It is very confusing. They did not know how or what to write. That is one reason it was a bad bill.

[LHC30]

[Paul S]

Ah yes...the marvelous legislature of California creates another unmitigated cluster f####.
Why am I not surprised?

[Wherryj]

So the laws are not confusing enough? Apparently a few people were able to understand them, so they had to change that.

Job security and carte blanche to charge honest citizens with crimes they didn't know they committed? Sounds like the CA legislature hasn't lost a step.

[Anchors]

That sucks!

[stix213]

Funny, the purpose of the renumbering was to make things less confusing.

[Librarian]

Funny, the purpose of the renumbering was to make things less confusing.

Well, if you don't have much of the numbering memorized already, it isn't a bad change overall.

Bills proposed this year, and a few proposed last year, used the new numbering in the laws, because the new numbering takes effect January, 2012, and so do most new laws proposed this year.

The actual bills that created the renumbering were from 2010: SB180 and SB 1115.

[jdberger]

Not all confusion in government is a bad idea.

Remember - Chess. Not Checkers.

[ke6guj]

Well, if you don't have much of the numbering memorized already, it isn't a bad change overall.

I agree. When before, you had sections of code like 12345(a)(2)(ii)(x) and now each item is broke down into a separate section, with definitions closely placed to make it easier to follow, the overall change is not bad.

Now, learning where everything moved will be fun.

[Flopper]

Not all confusion in government is a bad idea.

Remember - Chess. Not Checkers.

Post of the Day!

[MasterYong]

I have a buddy that just graduated from POST a few months ago. I kept forgetting to tell him about this renumbering. I sent him a link- hope its not a big deal for folks in his shoes, not knowing any of the PC anymore while applying.

[Liberty1]

There are conversion charts for officers to use. This is no big deal. Might make booking a perp a little bit longer.