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  • #76
    shark92651
    Vendor/Retailer
    • Oct 2006
    • 5431

    Originally posted by Tacobandit
    You guys watch way too many bad cop movies seriously are you guys running around this scared all the time? U guys wont have to worry cuz ur all on the verge of a heart attach. If you keep it separate from the rifle and only use ut to detach the mag then u remove it its STILL JUST A TOOL.
    Again, if you are so sure it still meets the definition of a tool even while attached to the mag catch, why do you insist you need to take it off after you remove the magazine? Why not just rock the MagMagnet in your AR 24x7! I understand where you are coming from when saying you will use it in SHTF or use it when nobody is looking and no one is the wiser, but you are losing me completely on your assertion that it is not creating an AW while attached.
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    • #77
      Tacobandit
      Banned
      • Sep 2009
      • 914

      Originally posted by shark92651
      Again, if you are so sure it still meets the definition of a tool even while attached to the mag catch, why do you insist you need to take it off after you remove the magazine? Why not just rock the MagMagnet in your AR 24x7! I understand where you are coming from when saying you will use it in SHTF or use it when nobody is looking and no one is the wiser, but you are losing me completely on your assertion that it is not creating an AW while attached.
      because you use it only for what its purpose is, to remove the magazine, then you remove it, if you leave it attached then it makes the magazine detachable at any time instead of just when you need to use it as a tool. Once you remove your hand from it and leave it attached then it becomes an assault rifle, but if you hold onto it, detach the magazine and remove the mag without removing your hand its just a tool you use, nothing more, its not attached to the release anymore then if you used a bullet. Just make sure you dont forget to remove it.

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      • #78
        shark92651
        Vendor/Retailer
        • Oct 2006
        • 5431

        But it's "intended purpose" is to attach itself to the magazine catch right? Why else would it have a magnet inside it? If I stick a bullet inside my BB and remove my hand it falls to the ground. If I stick a MagMagnet inside my BB and remove my hand it stays attached and my rifle suddenly becomes an AW? Sounds like there are a lot safer "tools" to use out there than this thing. I'll use it outside CA or when I drop in my .22LR conversion kit, but I would not advocate it's use in the manner you are describing.
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        • #79
          Tacobandit
          Banned
          • Sep 2009
          • 914

          No its intended purpose is to detach the magazine. Its secondary function is as a fixed magazine release. Once u remove your hand and leave it attached yes its an AW but if you use it strictly to release magazine then remove its a tool

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          • #80
            Anti-Hero
            Senior Member
            • Dec 2009
            • 1572

            Why if you're in law enforcement do you need a bullet button and/or a mag magnet? All the deputies I know have full capacity mags, and standard mag releases on personally owned rifles.
            IPSO FACTO

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            • #81
              Tacobandit
              Banned
              • Sep 2009
              • 914

              Hero- Ca law states all leos must have a letter from chief to poss AW.

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              • #82
                vmwerks
                Norcal Cyclist
                CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                • Jun 2009
                • 3502

                Originally posted by Tacobandit
                You guys watch way too many bad cop movies seriously are you guys running around this scared all the time? U guys wont have to worry cuz ur all on the verge of a heart attach. If you keep it separate from the rifle and only use ut to detach the mag then u remove it its STILL JUST A TOOL.

                Heart attach -

                Taco why ask a question then argue the answer? What your wanting to do is illegal, it doesn't matter why.

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                • #83
                  Tacobandit
                  Banned
                  • Sep 2009
                  • 914

                  Im not arguing about my original question. Ny question was if u keep the mag on another part of the rifle not attached to the BB. I will agree that is not a good idea due to it no longer being a tool however I believe that if u keep the mag on a button pinned to your shirt and when you need tiling detach a mag u grab it, release the mag azine w the magnet and then remove the magnet without removing your hand it is a tool as defined by the penal code

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                  • #84
                    Fate
                    Calguns Addict
                    • Apr 2006
                    • 9545

                    Originally posted by Tacobandit
                    Again this is your opinion there is no case law that says if I have a magnet button in my pocket, take it out and use it for one second then remove it that it becomes a part of the rifle. By that logic the second the tip of a bullet touches the release its now a part of the rifle and a felony.
                    Logic isn't your strong suit. There's no physical connection with a bullet tip, only pressure. Same cannot be said for a magnetic connection.
                    sigpic "On bended knee is no way to be free." - Eddie Vedder, "Guaranteed"

                    "Let your gun therefore be the constant companion of your walks." -Thomas Jefferson
                    , in a letter to his nephew Peter Carr dated August 19, 1785

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                    • #85
                      Fate
                      Calguns Addict
                      • Apr 2006
                      • 9545

                      Originally posted by Tacobandit
                      I would bank 10kor that I will never have any legal problems with my firearms or with any shootings I may get in, I have receive training and been in situations where I have had to articulate what I did, why I did it and the legality of what I did and I have not only been in the right I have received commendations for my actions.

                      You have your opinion and that's it I have actual training and experience in the legal system and applied it as a police officer
                      You are also a police officer that has publicly stated he's willing to commit a felony. Congrats. You are officially dirty.
                      sigpic "On bended knee is no way to be free." - Eddie Vedder, "Guaranteed"

                      "Let your gun therefore be the constant companion of your walks." -Thomas Jefferson
                      , in a letter to his nephew Peter Carr dated August 19, 1785

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                      • #86
                        Anti-Hero
                        Senior Member
                        • Dec 2009
                        • 1572

                        ouch
                        IPSO FACTO

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                        • #87
                          Tacobandit
                          Banned
                          • Sep 2009
                          • 914

                          Nice fate show ne in the penal code where it states such? You can't know why? Because your an idiot who has no clue about laws so get your head out of your *** before you post because you proved you don't know what you are talking about. THERE IS NO CASE LAWS OR PENAL CODES MAKING A MAGNET A FELONY. THE ONLY TIME A FELONY WOULD BE IF YOU LEAVE IT ATTACHED TO THE RIFLE IF YOU USE IT ONLY TO DETACH A MAG THEN REMOVE IT ITS A ****ING TOOL. DAMN YOU GUYS ARE THICK.

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                          • #88
                            Tacobandit
                            Banned
                            • Sep 2009
                            • 914

                            Really fate there's no physical connection with a bullet? Is it a magic bullet that you don't have to touch it to the release? Moron

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                            • #89
                              soopafly
                              Senior Member
                              • Oct 2005
                              • 2039

                              why do i get the feeling the ban hammer will be coming down shortly?
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                              • #90
                                Tacobandit
                                Banned
                                • Sep 2009
                                • 914

                                Better make its way around the thread then cuz I didn't start it but im sure going to finish it

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