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  • wildhawker
    I need a LIFE!!
    • Nov 2008
    • 14150

    Nordyke v. King update: 9th Circuit to Rehear En Banc (Order Nov 28 2011)

    By Howard Mintz
    hmintz@mercurynews.com
    Posted: 11/28/2011

    A federal appeals court on Monday once again decided to weigh in on an epic 12-year-old gun rights showdown over an Alameda County ordinance banning guns and ammunition on public property.

    In a brief order, the 9th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals agreed to rehear a legal challenge to the 1999 law, which restricts gun shows on county property, including Alameda County's fairgrounds. The order, which calls for an 11-judge 9th Circuit panel to hear the case, wipes out a ruling last May by three 9th Circuit judges who unanimously agreed to uphold the legality of the ordinance.
    Read more at the link. http://www.mercurynews.com/crime-courts/ci_19427867?

    -Brandon

    Update: Text of order (Document.pdf)

    KOZINSKI, Chief Judge:
    Upon the vote of a majority of nonrecused active judges, it is ordered that
    this case be reheard en banc pursuant to Circuit Rule 35-3. The three-judge panel
    opinion shall not be cited as precedent by or to any court of the Ninth Circuit.
    Judge Rawlinson did not participate in the deliberations or vote in this case.
    added date to title - who knows how many more of these threads there will be?
    // Librarian
    Last edited by Librarian; 11-28-2011, 6:52 PM.
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  • #2
    Window_Seat
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    • Apr 2008
    • 3533

    It's very much interesting, even after all these years.

    Erik.

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    • #3
      ke6guj
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      CGN Contributor - Lifetime
      • Nov 2003
      • 23725

      so whats the over/under on when Nordyke will be done, once and for all?
      Jack



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      • #4
        wildhawker
        I need a LIFE!!
        • Nov 2008
        • 14150

        Brandon Combs

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        • #5
          Window_Seat
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          • Apr 2008
          • 3533

          Originally posted by ke6guj
          so whats the over/under on when Nordyke will be done, once and for all?
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          Erik.

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          • #6
            CHS
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            CGN Contributor - Lifetime
            • Jan 2008
            • 11338

            Seriously.. WTF???

            TWO en-banc's? THREE decisions?

            This is just an effort to stall Pena, isn't it???

            But in all seriousness, how often do cases go en-banc multiple times? I can't imagine this is "usual business".
            Please read the Calguns Wiki
            Laws that forbid the carrying of arms...disarm only those who are neither inclined nor determined to commit crimes...Such laws make things worse for the assaulted and better for the assailants; they serve rather to encourage than to prevent homicides, for an unarmed man may be attacked with greater confidence than an armed man.
            --Cesare, Marquis of Beccaria, "On Crimes and Punishment"

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            • #7
              Kharn
              Senior Member
              • Aug 2009
              • 1219

              Does Don have his own reserved parking spot at the 9th Circuit's building yet?

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              • #8
                OleCuss
                Calguns Addict
                • Jun 2009
                • 7776

                Any chance they will expedite the process/decision?
                CGN's token life-long teetotaling vegetarian. Don't consider anything I post as advice or as anything more than opinion (if even that).

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                • #9
                  MudCamper
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                  • Mar 2007
                  • 4589

                  Originally posted by CHS
                  Seriously.. WTF???

                  TWO en-banc's? THREE decisions?

                  This is just an effort to stall Pena, isn't it???
                  Seems like it. But at least things are rolling again.

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                  • #10
                    CaliforniaLiberal
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                    CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                    • Jan 2008
                    • 4690

                    May we have a brief reminder of where we're at with Nordyke? Are we getting what we wanted? Just a fifty word time line/summary or something. I suppose there will be briefs filed and oral arguments, then an indeterminate wait for a ruling? I confess I don't always keep the various pending court cases clear in my mind for more than a couple of months. Too long between rulings.

                    Edited To Add: Will there be a dinner and drinks after the Oral Arguments? Does this granting of an En Banc hearing indicate that the 9th Circuit thinks this is a really important case and there trying real hard to get it right, maybe avoid being slapped down by SCOTUS? Are we secretly hoping for an adverse ruling so we can ride this all the way to SCOTUS and see the 9th get slapped down?
                    Last edited by CaliforniaLiberal; 11-28-2011, 6:25 PM.
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                    • #11
                      HowardW56
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                      • Aug 2003
                      • 5901

                      How many times has the 9th held argument on this case?
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                      • #12
                        kcbrown
                        Calguns Addict
                        • Apr 2009
                        • 9097

                        Originally posted by CHS
                        Seriously.. WTF???

                        TWO en-banc's? THREE decisions?

                        This is just an effort to stall Pena, isn't it???

                        But in all seriousness, how often do cases go en-banc multiple times? I can't imagine this is "usual business".
                        I'm inclined to say that the "usual business" of the 9th Circuit is to deny the right to keep and bear arms.

                        Maybe the Nordyke decision wasn't sufficiently bad for the rest of the court.
                        The Constitution is not "the Supreme Law of the Land, except in the face of contradicting law which has not yet been overturned by the courts". It is THE SUPREME LAW OF THE LAND, PERIOD. You break your oath to uphold the Constitution if you don't refuse to enforce unadjudicated laws you believe are Unconstitutional.

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                        • #13
                          wildhawker
                          I need a LIFE!!
                          • Nov 2008
                          • 14150

                          The 9th has a very interesting decision to make on 2A: track Ezell, or not.

                          I'm also curious to see how the en banc panel resolves the EP issues; Don's requests for rehearing surely caused a few "doh!" moments in chambers.

                          -Brandon
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                          • #14
                            Mrbroom
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                            • Aug 2011
                            • 361

                            Originally posted by Window_Seat
                            Yep!!!!
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                            • #15
                              anthonyca
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                              • May 2008
                              • 6316

                              Originally posted by Kharn
                              Does Don have his own reserved parking spot at the 9th Circuit's building yet?
                              Ha. That was pretty funny.
                              https://www.facebook.com/pages/Union...70812799700206

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