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  • #16
    SJgunguy24
    I need a LIFE!!
    • May 2008
    • 14849

    Know the laws inside and out, take copies of the relevent PC and case law with you and tell them to do their homework. In the mean time you'll be getting back to exercising your second amendment. He did take an oath to uphold and defend that right.
    There are 3 kinds of people in this world.
    The wise, learn from the mistakes of others.
    The smart, learn from their own mistakes.
    The others, well......they just never learn.

    "Is life so dear, or peace so sweet, as to be purchased at the price of chains and slavery? Forbid it, almighty God! I know not what course others may take; but as for me, Give Me Liberty, Or Give Me Death!"
    Patrick Henry.

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    • #17
      amd64
      Senior Member
      • May 2005
      • 1008

      Originally posted by erik_26
      Just keep your camp well organized, keep all the garbage picked up. Stay 100% legal. If you think something is questionable, leave it out until you fully understand it's legality. Also, stay safe. If you have a bunch of people going, establish a firing line. Have someone be in charge (you know just officially announce seize fire when stopping to changing targets.... visually make sure the guns are cleared before going down range....etc).

      I think BLM likes to watch from a ridge/distance first to see what you are all about. So if it looks like you guys are organized, safe & clean, they might just leave you alone.
      +1. The easiest way to attract unwanted scrutiny is to behave like uncontrolled, undisciplined, unsafe, slob shooters.

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      • #18
        automatikdonn
        Member
        • Jan 2011
        • 248

        The USGI mags are not legal in my understanding unless you have an AW exemption and you are active duty. They are for military use, not civilian use as explained to me by a very very Pro Gun CHP.
        "No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms. The strongest reason for the people to retain the right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in government"

        -- Thomas Jefferson, 1 Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334
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        • #19
          QQQ
          Senior Member
          • Apr 2010
          • 2243

          Originally posted by automatikdonn
          The USGI mags are not legal in my understanding unless you have an AW exemption and you are active duty. They are for military use, not civilian use as explained to me by a very very Pro Gun CHP.
          Never heard of such a rule. Sounds like FUD unless PC is cited.
          Pro-gun folks can be just as guilty of it as antis.

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          • #20
            Barabas
            Veteran Member
            • Oct 2009
            • 3370

            Originally posted by automatikdonn
            The USGI mags are not legal in my understanding unless you have an AW exemption and you are active duty. They are for military use, not civilian use as explained to me by a very very Pro Gun CHP.
            This is why you never take legal advice from Law Enforcement. Next time you talk to him, ask him what PC USGI mags violate.

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            • #21
              Sniper3142
              Veteran Member
              • May 2004
              • 2579

              Originally posted by automatikdonn
              The USGI mags are not legal in my understanding unless you have an AW exemption and you are active duty. They are for military use, not civilian use as explained to me by a very very Pro Gun CHP.
              Totally Wrong.

              LCMs (Large Capacity Magazines) are totally LEGAL to own and use.

              They can be used in RAW (Registered Assault Weapon) as well as Featureless OLLs.

              Sounds like your CHP pal is totally clueless about firearm laws.

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              • #22
                Munk
                Senior Member
                • Jun 2010
                • 2124

                Large cap's shouldn't be an issue if you're using them legally. (No fixed mag rifles that aren't RAW).

                OLL's BB's, etc... Again. Be legal.

                If a beligerent officer makes an appearance, be sure you and your friends take note of their name, number, other identifying factors. Get a map that shows the shooting areas if possible so that if they try to lie to you, you can tell them to bugger off.
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                1911's instill fairy dust in the bullets, making them more deadly.

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                • #23
                  1BigPea
                  Senior Member
                  • Jun 2008
                  • 1102

                  Originally posted by automatikdonn
                  The USGI mags are not legal in my understanding unless you have an AW exemption and you are active duty. They are for military use, not civilian use as explained to me by a very very Pro Gun CHP.

                  FAIL!
                  Originally Posted by Wherryj
                  I am a physician. I am held to being "the expert" in medicine. I can't fall back on feigned ignorance and the statement that the patient should have known better than I. When an officer "can't be expected to know the entire penal code", but a citizen is held to "ignorance is no excuse", this is equivalent to ME being able to sue my patient for my own malpractice-after all, the patient should have known better, right?

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                  • #24
                    anthonyca
                    Calguns Addict
                    • May 2008
                    • 6316

                    Originally posted by automatikdonn
                    The USGI mags are not legal in my understanding unless you have an AW exemption and you are active duty. They are for military use, not civilian use as explained to me by a very very Pro Gun CHP.
                    Read my sig line.
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                    Originally posted by Wherryj
                    I am a physician. I am held to being "the expert" in medicine. I can't fall back on feigned ignorance and the statement that the patient should have known better than I. When an officer "can't be expected to know the entire penal code", but a citizen is held to "ignorance is no excuse", this is equivalent to ME being able to sue my patient for my own malpractice-after all, the patient should have known better, right?

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                    • #25
                      erik_26
                      Veteran Member
                      • Nov 2010
                      • 3670

                      Originally posted by anthonyca
                      Read my sig line.
                      I like the Sig line! Very good point.
                      Signature required

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                      • #26
                        cdtx2001
                        CGN Contributor
                        • Apr 2009
                        • 6630

                        Originally posted by automatikdonn
                        The USGI mags are not legal in my understanding unless you have an AW exemption and you are active duty. They are for military use, not civilian use as explained to me by a very very Pro Gun CHP.
                        This is why I NEVER ask a LEO for what is legal and what isn't.

                        To the OP:

                        Be safe and have fun out there.

                        If you do have an encounter with LEOs be polite, but know your relevant laws better than they do.

                        And remember most of all to STFU if some rookie cowboy type BLM officer is trying to jam you up.
                        Last edited by cdtx2001; 10-25-2011, 6:37 PM.
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                        • #27
                          Librarian
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                          • Oct 2005
                          • 44628

                          Originally posted by automatikdonn
                          The USGI mags are not legal in my understanding unless you have an AW exemption and you are active duty. They are for military use, not civilian use as explained to me by a very very Pro Gun CHP.
                          Already noted this is incorrect, but please see http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/s...d.php?t=387409 for the explanation.
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                          • #28
                            rero360
                            Veteran Member
                            • Dec 2009
                            • 3926

                            I'm actually planning to go out to that exact spot this coming sunday with a few other friends and attempt a 1 mile shot with my .308 probably will lose our little wager (hit on the 5th shot) but I think I can afford the cup of starbucks and it'll be fun anyways.

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                            • #29
                              GettoPhilosopher
                              Senior Member
                              • Sep 2010
                              • 1814

                              Originally posted by rero360
                              I'm actually planning to go out to that exact spot this coming sunday with a few other friends and attempt a 1 mile shot with my .308 probably will lose our little wager (hit on the 5th shot) but I think I can afford the cup of starbucks and it'll be fun anyways.
                              Let me know how that goes!

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                              • #30
                                GettoPhilosopher
                                Senior Member
                                • Sep 2010
                                • 1814

                                Quick final question...."No shooting within 150 yards of campsite". Is that an ESTABLISHED campsite, or does that mean I have to set up the firing line 150 yards away from the tent?

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