California vs. Non-California residents

[wyrm2021]

I have a few questions ask, of which I will ask one at a time. Some questions may fall away depending on the answers I get.

1.(Hypothitically speaking) If I`m from another state own a hand gun and move to California, Can I legally bring my handgun into California?

Please answer with the possibility of off roster guns, ammo capacity excluded and if you answer with legal jargin please rephrase in laymans terms?

[GrizzlyGuy]

See here: Moving to California with firearms

[mrdd]

I have a few questions ask, of which I will ask one at a time. Some questions may fall away depending on the answers I get.

1.(Hypothitically speaking) If I`m from another state own a hand gun and move to California, Can I legally bring my handgun into California?

Please answer with the possibility of off roster guns, ammo capacity excluded and if you answer with legal jargin please rephrase in laymans terms?

The simple answer is yes, you may import them as personal property. There are some exceptions based on specific characteristics (no threaded barrel, no second handgrip, etc.), and a few models that are banned by name.

The roster applies only to sales made by dealers, so does not apply.

Note that you must register each item with the CA DOJ within 60 days of when you import them.

[wyrm2021]

"The roster applies only to sales made by dealers, so does not apply."

Ok so what are the laws if I buy PPT?

[Librarian]

Continue reading the wiki...

http://wiki.calgunsfoundation.org/index.php/Buying_and_selling_firearms_in_California#Buying_from_a_Private_Party_-_PPT

[nicki]

Don't take in assembled normal capacity mags.

Many pistols have standard capacity magazines in excess of 10 rounds.

You need to make sure all pistol magazines you have are 10 rounds or less.

Either get rid of your normal capacity magazines or take them apart and bring them in pieces.

If you have a norm cap magazine and it isn't one of the grandfathered ones, you risk a "felony" for each magazine.

I don't know how hard this is being enforced, but having 10 rounds vs 15 rounds doesn't make it worth the risk to me.

Nicki

[todd2968]

No no stay away and be free!!!!

[rromeo]

"The roster applies only to sales made by dealers, so does not apply."

Ok so what are the laws if I buy PPT?

"The roster applies only to sales made by dealers, so does not apply."

[wyrm2021]

Continue reading the wiki...
http://wiki.calgunsfoundation.org/in...te_Party_-_PPT

If you would please follow up with laymans term, we are not all lawyers. Laws are writen in such ways to keep the laypeople bored with their rights. Expediting the wealth of knowledge to the people in terms they can comprehend will fill the ranks and files of our cause.

[Librarian]

If you would please follow up with laymans term, we are not all lawyers. Laws are writen in such ways to keep the laypeople bored with their rights. Expediting the wealth of knowledge to the people in terms they can comprehend will fill the ranks and files of our cause.

Sometimes, the legal bit is absolutely necessary for precision - otherwise, we get long threads arguing about what "is" is.

PPT is exempt from the Roster.

The parts at the wiki that are not indented and in a shaded box are explanations of the law quoted.

[wyrm2021]

Many pistols have standard capacity magazines in excess of 10 rounds.

You need to make sure all pistol magazines you have are 10 rounds or less.

Either get rid of your normal capacity magazines or take them apart and bring them in pieces.

If you have a norm cap magazine and it isn't one of the grandfathered ones, you risk a "felony" for each magazine.

I don't know how hard this is being enforced, but having 10 rounds vs 15 rounds doesn't make it worth the risk to me.

Nicki

Yes I know Nicki, that why in the last line I stated ammo capacity excluded.

[wyrm2021]

Sometimes, the legal bit is absolutely necessary for precision - otherwise, we get long threads arguing about what "is" is.

PPT is exempt from the Roster.

The parts at the wiki that are not indented and in a shaded box are explanations of the law quoted.

dually noted. On PPT from the wiki you lnked,I interperate one party can not reside out of California even if the handgun is on the roster, both parties must be residents of California, do I read that correctlly?

[mrdd]

"The roster applies only to sales made by dealers, so does not apply."

Ok so what are the laws if I buy PPT?

You can purchase via PPT most anything that is legally owned by another state resident. The exception to this is items which require special licensing such as "registered assault weapons" and the like.

[bwiese]

1.(Hypothitically speaking) If I`m from another state own a hand gun and move to California, Can I legally bring my handgun into California?

Please answer with the possibility of off roster guns, ammo capacity excluded and if you answer with legal jargin please rephrase in laymans terms?

Resident of another state can bring in any handgun into California that is legal - either for short term stay or if he moves here. If the person is moving into CA with handguns, he has 60 days to file with DOJ (and a $19 fee) a "New Resident Handgun Ownership Report" form.

Roster status is irrelevant: it only gates certain FFL sales/transfers, and not possession, etc.

Handgun ammo "capacity" is irrelevant. (Just do not bring in over 10-round magazines.)

The handgun must not be a semiautomatic assault weapon - which means (in general, lots of details elsewhere) semiauto pistols cannot have threaded barrels nor have the mag well ahead of the pistol grip (a la Tec 9, etc.)

Also, the handgun cannot be an unconventional pistol (unrifled barrel), nor can it chamber a regular shotgun shell (don't bring in a Taurus Judge).

[bwiese]

dually noted. On PPT from the wiki you lnked,I interperate one party can not reside out of California even if the handgun is on the roster, both parties must be residents of California, do I read that correctlly?

Correct.

Actually, the DOJ is illegally restricting this to both parties having CA ID.