Significance of SB610 relative to CCW?

[CEDaytonaRydr]

Wait for Jan 1, at least.

-Brandon

Roger...

Wilco...

[RickD427]

"Chaptered" means "the bill went to the Governor, and since he did not veto it, it is now law".

Librarian,

Absent an urgency clause in the bill, don't we have to wait until January 1 for it to become law?

[CitaDeL]

Wait for Jan 1, at least.

-Brandon

You mean the 2nd. The 1st is not only a holiday, but a Sunday as well. The S/O would be closed. (Ask me why I know this....)

[j.hors]

When they say standardize wouldn't that also mean that the good cause part of the concealed carry would have to be standardize also, and if that's the case what about up north where self protection is considered a good cause where is san diego it's not considered a good cause how would that affect standardization of the concealed carry license?

[wildhawker]

You mean the 2nd. The 1st is not only a holiday, but a Sunday as well. The S/O would be closed. (Ask me why I know this....)

Yeah, this.

-Brandon

[Librarian]

Librarian,

Absent an urgency clause in the bill, don't we have to wait until January 1 for it to become law?

Depends on exactly what you mean by 'becomes law'.

The distinction is 'enacted into law' - signified by chaptering; laws enacted by such bills cannot be amended until next session - and the effective date.

The CA Constitution, Art 4, says

SEC. 10. (a) Each bill passed by the Legislature shall be presented
to the Governor. It becomes a statute if it is signed by the
Governor. The Governor may veto it by returning it with any
objections to the house of origin, which shall enter the objections
in the journal and proceed to reconsider it. If each house then
passes the bill by rollcall vote entered in the journal, two-thirds
of the membership concurring, it becomes a statute.

So, I believe that means 'it is law' once signed or otherwise not returned by the Governor.

[RickD427]

Depends on exactly what you mean by 'becomes law'.

The distinction is 'enacted into law' - signified by chaptering; laws enacted by such bills cannot be amended until next session - and the effective date.

The CA Constitution, Art 4, says
So, I believe that means 'it is law' once signed or otherwise not returned by the Governor.

Librarian,

I see your point, and the distinction. Thank you very much for the quick reply.

[Untamed1972]

When they say standardize wouldn't that also mean that the good cause part of the concealed carry would have to be standardize also, and if that's the case what about up north where self protection is considered a good cause where is san diego it's not considered a good cause how would that affect standardization of the concealed carry license?

The "standardization" refers to the application requirements. The purpose of 610 was to prevent issuing agencies from adding additional requirements to the application process, like requiring reference letters or liability insurance policies and such.

The GC clause is still in there for now, so those Sheriff's that are abusing that portion of the law still can, but at least they can't add additional requirements or fees to the process before they deny your application.

[Flintlock Tom]

Meanwhile, back to the OPs first sentence:

"I heard a clerk in a gun shop today..." = "I read this on the wall of a public restroom."

[wildhawker]

Meanwhile, back to the OPs first sentence:

"I heard a clerk in a gun shop today..." = "I read this on the wall of a public restroom."

Yep.

[Untamed1972]

Meanwhile, back to the OPs first sentence:

"I heard a clerk in a gun shop today..." = "I read this on the wall of a public restroom."

Let's put it this way.....if what the gunshop said was actually true.....the gunshop isn't the first place you would've heard about it.

[Librarian]

Thought:

What would be a reasonable CA law-knowledge-test appropriate to giving a gun store employee?

Not as a condition of hiring, I suppose, though eventually that might be nice, but say, 'pass this with 90% or better after 6 months'?

First question: what is your username on Calguns?