Brown explains the opposites of his vetos and signatures

[johnny_22]

http://sanfrancisco.cbslocal.com/2011/10/11/gov-brown-explains-logic-of-his-11th-hour-bill-signings-vetoes/

Why a Jesuit-trained politician will keep you guessing.

[curtisfong]

He knows AB144 has no real meaning in CA.

He signed two pointless anti-gun bills, vetoed a potentially disasterous anti-gun bill, and signed a good pro-gun bill.

That isn't really coincidentia oppositorum; thats being smart.

[edwardm]

http://sanfrancisco.cbslocal.com/2011/10/11/gov-brown-explains-logic-of-his-11th-hour-bill-signings-vetoes/

Why a Jesuit-trained politician will keep you guessing.

If that isn't a smoking gun, I don't know what is.

[CHS]

That isn't really coincidentia oppositorum; thats being smart.

Being smart would have been to veto all four.

But smart and politics don't mix.

[loose_electron]

Being smart from a political perspective
means staying in the muddled middle.

2 weeks to a shall issue state!

[Shady]

maybe he knows 144 may help us become shall issue

[stix213]

"Higher unity" as in shall issue LTC. I don't see any other meaning to that phrasing, considering he knows damn well the various potential implications of AB144

[SanPedroShooter]

Ughhh.. what does it all mean....? Is he saying, "I signed the UOC ban and cleaned up the LTC system to get guns out of peoples faces and inside their waistbands"...?

I would think the Shall issue handwriting is on the wall, one way or another...

Can we get a dem to run a shall issue bill next year? Would Brown sign it? I have a feeling that the "public safety" unions and COP orgs would be dead set against it.

[stix213]

Ughhh.. what does it all mean....? Is he saying, "I signed the UOC ban and cleaned up the LTC system to get guns out of peoples faces and inside their waistbands"...?

I would think the Shall issue handwriting is on the wall, one way or another...

Can we get a dem to run a shall issue bill next year? Would Brown sign it?

This is certainly their chance to have it done "their way" as opposed to how the courts tell them it has to be. If they were smart, this is exactly what they would do.

[SanPedroShooter]

Right? I think we can pretty much forget about R gun bills as R's lose more and more influence in Sac. I just see massive static from police unions and lib sherrifs (whose opinions are given a lot of weight) Legislative clean up is good (and easier) its the way all the other 40 some odd states have done it, but I think the courts are going to have to show the way and set a baseline for statist/facist states like California.

[Kosuki]

If that isn't a smoking gun, I don't know what is.

I cant see the smoke yet but I can smell it burning ^^

[Ubermcoupe]

If that isn't a smoking gun, I don't know what is.

I hope so.

[CalBear]

I'm honestly not sure what to make of this. My suspicion on this apparent contradiction is that JB ended up listening to the CLEOs and their complaints about open carriers and the LEO resources that are used, while he probably saw SB 610 as fair and just. Not sure if I should read into this more and start guessing, like others have, that he's secretly working toward shall issue LTC or something.

[tabrisnet]

Ughhh.. what does it all mean....? Is he saying, "I signed the UOC ban and cleaned up the LTC system to get guns out of peoples faces and inside their waistbands"...?

I would think the Shall issue handwriting is on the wall, one way or another...

Can we get a dem to run a shall issue bill next year? Would Brown sign it? I have a feeling that the "public safety" unions and COP orgs would be dead set against it.

To quote Gene, the game is Chess, not Checkers.

Do note another bill he vetoed: SB914 - to ban warrantless police seizures of cell phones. He said that the courts are better suited to the question. He's right.

If the legislature passes a law about this, it moots any possible lawsuits. Binding precedent is much harder to revert than legislation. Similar follows for AB144 & Shall-Issue. He said the same thing about SB427: Ammo Registration. Let the courts settle the issue.

[Darklyte27]

It comes down to ill believe it when I see it? LTC!