Gov. Brown is no fool

[vonderplatz]

Gerry Brown is a chameleon of sorts. By signing the anti-gun bills he can pander to his base, while at the same time serve us up a beautiful pitch. It's up to us to take that pitch and knock it outta the park. There is a silver lining to that dark cloud. As Gene always says "chess, not checkers." I think the Governor plays chess too, and he's not sitting across from us.

Had to double check to make sure I'm on the right thread.

[hasserl]

The Declaration - a fine document - is not the law of the land.

Rather, we turn to the U.S. Constitution for matters of law.

Thankfully, we are a secular nation.

The Declaration is important, in that it declared our reasons and intent for seceding from the Commonwealth.

It is not, however, the particular document that lays out the form and powers of our government.

To claim it is, well, that would be intellectually dishonest.



Everything else aside, before you make a claim like that you better be able to substantiate it.

Guys, the Declaration preceded, and is the foundation for the Constitution; the Constitution does not contradict the Declaration, it can't. The Constitution grants no rights, it merely recognizes some and protects them. Rights exist because, as stated in the Declaration, they are endowed on men by their creator.

[hasserl]

Yup. These things are not complicated!

Either someone is for freedom, or against freedom. And they are for large government, or against large government.

And they either are for representative government or they are for judicial oligarchy.

[hasserl]

This thread as truly gone into the crapper. I don't think the last two pages have anything to do with Jerry Brown

Just to bring it back on topic, Jerry Brown is a gun hating, big government, pro-public workers union, environmental wacko, progressive liberal. And people who supported him because he is "pro-gun" were duped.

[Glock22Fan]

Just to bring it back on topic, Jerry Brown is a gun hating, big government, pro-public workers union, environmental wacko, progressive liberal. And people who supported him because he is "pro-gun" were duped.

And Meg Whitman is an even bigger gun hater, totally inexperienced in government and, as far as I can see, not someone I agree with on many issues or someone I'd want to sit next to at a dinner table (wheras, I suspect, Jerry would make an amusing neighbor).

I wasn't duped, I voted for Jerry after seriously considering both him and the alternative, and I still consider that the right choice. And, unlike Meg, at least he owns guns.

[Gray Peterson]

And they either are for representative government or they are for judicial oligarchy.

No offense, but I heard this before. Do you think Lawrence v. Texas was incorrect, theretofor, the state has the power to prohibit the romantic acts of non-related consenting adults in private?

[dantodd]

No offense, but I heard this before. Do you think Lawrence v. Texas was incorrect, theretofor, the state has the power to prohibit the romantic acts of non-related consenting adults in private?

Why only non-related?

[Meplat]

Meh. At least you can walk away if it gets too hot. We have to whip out the Shake and Bakes and turn into a group of baked 'taters on the side of a hill.

But you get to work in much more picturesque surroundings!

[Gray Peterson]

Why only non-related?

For the same reason Parker/Heller went up and won in front of SCOTUS and Seegars did not.

[oaklander]

I think we should all take this conversation to live chat.

;-)

GP, you never called me back the other day. Made me sad panda.


Sent from my brain, to yours. . .

[Sgt Raven]

No offense, but I heard this before. Do you think Lawrence v. Texas was incorrect, theretofor, the state has the power to prohibit the romantic acts of non-related consenting adults in private?

Some people are all for 'Blue Laws' till they get busted 'cause their GF was giving them a BJ or they SIIHA.

[oaklander]

Some people are all for 'Blue Laws' till they get busted 'cause their GF was giving them a BJ or they SIIHA.

need pics please

<grin>


Sent from my brain, to yours. . .

[Sgt Raven]

need pics please

<grin>


Sent from my brain, to yours. . .

I ain't gonna SIIHAAPP.

[Stonewalker]

If no pics, then at least explain SIIHA, sheesh!

[Sgt Raven]

If no pics, then at least explain SIIHA, sheesh!

It's used usually when you're going to or just broke up. From other forums.
Stick
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