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  • SilverBulletZ06
    Member
    • Sep 2011
    • 222

    Updates on Masciandaro v. US

    Can we get this thread going like the Williams case?

    SCOTUS:
    Supreme Court of the United States, Supreme Court, Supreme Court of US, Supremecourt, United State Supreme Court, US Supreme Court, U.S. Supreme Court, Search, Document


    SCOTUS Blog says that the court is not yet ready to act on Masciandaro, but I believe the reply was due today.
  • #2
    Caladain
    Member
    • Apr 2009
    • 383

    Originally posted by SilverBulletZ06
    Can we get this thread going like the Williams case?

    SCOTUS:
    Supreme Court of the United States, Supreme Court, Supreme Court of US, Supremecourt, United State Supreme Court, US Supreme Court, U.S. Supreme Court, Search, Document


    SCOTUS Blog says that the court is not yet ready to act on Masciandaro, but I believe the reply was due today.

    It's still...today

    I'd be concerned if no reply was in by COB today.

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    • #3
      SilverBulletZ06
      Member
      • Sep 2011
      • 222

      Well darn it I wanted to read the reply. Then I want to read the counter reply. In fact, I'd probably be able to write both since the .gov seems to write the same thing "Its in the publics best interest. Never mind all those times a CCW saves someone from robbery, rape, or murder".

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      • #4
        Kharn
        Senior Member
        • Aug 2009
        • 1219

        Petitioner has 10 days to submit an optional response to the Respondant's brief, only after the 10 days have expired will the Clerk distribute the case for a conference, thus the SC not being ready to act.

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        • #5
          mattlevy
          Junior Member
          • Jun 2011
          • 7

          FYI, the government has requested and received an extension for another week. The government's brief is now due on 10/18.

          Best,

          Matt Levy

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          • #6
            yellowfin
            Calguns Addict
            • Nov 2007
            • 8371

            His lawyer is the federal public defender? I thought Cloudigy Law PLLC had someone for him.
            "You can't stop insane people from doing insane things with insane laws. That's insane!" -- Penn Jillette
            Originally posted by indiandave
            In Pennsylvania Your permit to carry concealed is called a License to carry fire arms. Other states call it a CCW. In New Jersey it's called a crime.
            Discretionary Issue is the new Separate but Equal.

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            • #7
              mattlevy
              Junior Member
              • Jun 2011
              • 7

              Originally posted by yellowfin
              His lawyer is the federal public defender? I thought Cloudigy Law PLLC had someone for him.
              We are working with the federal public defender to represent Mr. Masciandaro.

              Best,

              Matt

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              • #8
                SilverBulletZ06
                Member
                • Sep 2011
                • 222

                Originally posted by mattlevy
                FYI, the government has requested and received an extension for another week. The government's brief is now due on 10/18.

                Best,

                Matt Levy
                Wow, seriously?! How long do they need to respond. This would have to be something like the 4th visit to chambers, and they need another 7 days on top of the 30 days they have already been granted?

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                • #9
                  krucam
                  Member
                  • Mar 2010
                  • 334

                  As Matt mentioned:


                  Supreme Court of the United States, Supreme Court, Supreme Court of US, Supremecourt, United State Supreme Court, US Supreme Court, U.S. Supreme Court, Search, Document


                  No. 10-11212
                  Title:
                  Sean Masciandaro, Petitioner
                  v.
                  United States
                  Docketed: June 24, 2011
                  Lower Ct: United States Court of Appeals for the Fourth Circuit
                  Case Nos.: (09-4839)
                  Decision Date: March 24, 2011

                  ~~~Date~~~ ~~~~~~~Proceedings and Orders~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
                  Jun 22 2011 Petition for a writ of certiorari and motion for leave to proceed in forma pauperis filed. (Response due July 25, 2011)
                  Jul 5 2011 Waiver of right of respondent United States to respond filed.
                  Jul 14 2011 DISTRIBUTED for Conference of September 26, 2011.
                  Jul 25 2011 Brief amicus curiae of Second Amendment Foundation, Inc. filed. (Distributed)
                  Aug 9 2011 Response Requested . (Due September 8, 2011)
                  Aug 24 2011 Order extending time to file response to petition to and including October 11, 2011.
                  Oct 11 2011 Order further extending time to file response to petition to and including October 18, 2011.
                  Mark C.
                  DFW, TX

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                  • #10
                    OleCuss
                    Calguns Addict
                    • Jun 2009
                    • 7901

                    Originally posted by mattlevy
                    We are working with the federal public defender to represent Mr. Masciandaro.

                    Best,

                    Matt
                    Thank you for your work on this. It is very important to the cause of freedom.
                    CGN's token life-long teetotaling vegetarian. Don't consider anything I post as advice or as anything more than opinion (if even that).

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                    • #11
                      OleCuss
                      Calguns Addict
                      • Jun 2009
                      • 7901

                      Originally posted by SilverBulletZ06
                      Wow, seriously?! How long do they need to respond. This would have to be something like the 4th visit to chambers, and they need another 7 days on top of the 30 days they have already been granted?
                      I'm not at all sure what is going on, but it would not surprise me at all if denial of cert for Williams suggested a different sort of presentation. Or maybe Heller II changed some of the context necessitating a re-write? There could be other legislative or court situations we may know nothing about?

                      I'm just speculating, but I'd note that the enactment of AB144 means the next filing in Richards is different than it would have been if AB144 had been vetoed.
                      CGN's token life-long teetotaling vegetarian. Don't consider anything I post as advice or as anything more than opinion (if even that).

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                      • #12
                        krucam
                        Member
                        • Mar 2010
                        • 334

                        Originally posted by OleCuss
                        I'm not at all sure what is going on, but it would not surprise me at all if denial of cert for Williams suggested a different sort of presentation. Or maybe Heller II changed some of the context necessitating a re-write? There could be other legislative or court situations we may know nothing about?

                        I'm just speculating, but I'd note that the enactment of AB144 means the next filing in Richards is different than it would have been if AB144 had been vetoed.
                        I'd say you're likely warm. I don't see however how Heller II's loss would help the SG/Defendant's arguments. Remember that at this stage, the briefs are not about arguing over the Question presented by the Petitioners. It is about whether the Cert should be granted.

                        Recall one of the arguments used by MD in their response in Williams. It said (and I'm paraphrasing wildly), "There are much better cases out there over this one to explore this right".

                        Kills me to say it, but perhaps they were right...
                        Mark C.
                        DFW, TX

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                        • #13
                          hoffmang
                          I need a LIFE!!
                          • Apr 2006
                          • 18448

                          Originally posted by mattlevy
                          We are working with the federal public defender to represent Mr. Masciandaro.

                          Best,

                          Matt
                          And all are getting as much support as they'd like from SAF and friends.

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                          • #14
                            krucam
                            Member
                            • Mar 2010
                            • 334

                            Originally posted by hoffmang
                            And all are getting as much support as they'd like from SAF and friends.

                            -Gene
                            More Amici...
                            Mark C.
                            DFW, TX

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                            • #15
                              press1280
                              Veteran Member
                              • Mar 2009
                              • 3023

                              Originally posted by krucam
                              More Amici...
                              I only see the SAF amici. Will the NRA and others support this case with more amici?

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