GOV> Brown In Violation of Federal Long Gun Registration Act

[taperxz]

Yeah, I know its a nice thought to do it. if I had the legality to do so that has merritt it can be done, but I also know a citizens arrest must be made in the presence of law enforcement and getting a gov lacky to stand there and man up is another subject. But the one thing I do know is Violation of Civil rights is a offence that anyone can be taken to court over. Those yuppies who tried that failed to realize that he got approval from the other 2 branches of government as well as majority of public support untill he turned to Iraq

I was venting but at the same time I do want to do something about it. Maybe that large group could be a civil rights class action lawsuit against him and the creators. I had spoken to someone at the NRA and they did say if and when a clear case occurs you bet they will get the marshals involved

Ya, arrest the governor, That way while he is in jail Gavin Newsome can take over while Jerry works out his legal troubles. Now we can all be one happy state of San Franciscostan.

[POLICESTATE]

Besides the fact that this doesn't even happen until 2014......


My noob question is: What's the difference between long guns being 'recorded' by their make/model and serial? How is that different from the current DROS system where the long gun serial number is registered & recorded?

Technically it's not recorded or so we are always being told. The DROS form stays with the FFL, the information sent in to DOJ does not include the long gun serial numbers.

Of course it would be easy for the state to enact law to compel FFL's to copy and send in all DROS forms since [INSERT DATE] and then start inputting the information into a database. They would of course have to hire a bunch of people at DOJ to do this, oh look they're creating jobs now!

My question would be, how do I list my AR if I built it?

Make: POLICESTATE
Model: AR-15ZK (Zombie Killa)
Serial: Whatever it is on the side.

[POLICESTATE]

Ya, arrest the governor, That way while he is in jail Gavin Newsome can take over while Jerry works out his legal troubles. Now we can all be one happy state of San Franciscostan.

Nah you'd just arrest them both at the same time for conspiracy to whatever, cornhole the people or something.

Who would be governor after that?

[Librarian]

Technically it's not recorded or so we are always being told. The DROS form stays with the FFL, the information sent in to DOJ does not include the long gun serial numbers.

Of course it would be easy for the state to enact law to compel FFL's to copy and send in all DROS forms since [INSERT DATE] and then start inputting the information into a database. They would of course have to hire a bunch of people at DOJ to do this, oh look they're creating jobs now!

My question would be, how do I list my AR if I built it?

Make: POLICESTATE
Model: AR-15ZK (Zombie Killa)
Serial: Whatever it is on the side.

Since making is not a transfer, you do nothing at all.

DOJ is required by the bill to upgrade the DROS to record the long gun info and the new fields will be transmitted and stored.

[GOEX FFF]

Besides the fact that this doesn't even happen until 2014......


My noob question is: What's the difference between long guns being 'recorded' by their make/model and serial? How is that different from the current DROS system where the long gun serial number is registered & recorded?

Long gun info is destroyed after a period of days.
809 makes any other firearm newly sold/transfered in the state that's not a handgun have the same registration/info keeping like handgun info currently is.
Retaining the firearm and purchaser's info is the "registration."
(Besides the 03 FFL + COE exemption) I don't see how it doesn't kill C&C pvt. party-to-pvt. party C&R long gun sales. That IMO is it's most devastating effect.

FOR ALL:
Remember again, this is not happening for another 2 years from now, so there is time to fight it.

[Mssr. Eleganté]

Besides the fact that this doesn't even happen until 2014......


My noob question is: What's the difference between long guns being 'recorded' by their make/model and serial? How is that different from the current DROS system where the long gun serial number is registered & recorded?

With the current DROS system, long gun information is not recorded. If you look at your DROS paperwork for a handgun you will see the make, model, caliber, serial number, action type, color, barrel length and country of origin are all recorded. If you look at your DROS paperwork for a long gun you will see that it just records the number of long guns that you purchased. Even that information is supposedly discarded by DOJ after a couple of weeks.

[chris]

i'm not surprised that he signed these bills at all. but to some who thought he was a friend of 2A rights was wrong.

[a1c]

I don't know.

Join date of 2006, I can see waiting a bit to troll but damn, I don't think I'd be willing to invest 5+ years in it.

Maybe he's one of those reserve trolls.

[nyj09]

If I have to I will place GOV Brown under citizens arrest for violation of the U.S. Constitution and laws governing the registration of Longguns in the state of CA. Current federal law prohibits record keeping of longguns which starting today CA is requireing longguns to be recorded in their state registry by make model and serial.


I would like to have a large group behind me or I am willing to go at it alone. I am tired of the attacks on the rights given to us by the great people who created this country and those that fought to protect it all these years.

I respect you for saying how you feel, and you know what, if I had the means and time to go to sac, I would be right there with you. It's really shameful that people are making fun... back in the days of the founders, a citizens arrest would be the least of legislatures worries. I'm getting fed up with a lot of so called, "pro gunners" only supporting the second amendment, or any amendment for that matter "as long as they don't step on any toes".

How about we show some respect and dialogue some positive solutions in stead of criticize, calgunners?

[bomb_on_bus]

Anything that will advance the 2ndA in CA will have to be done by those who spend hours in the law books, in the court rooms, and who have the know how to work things to our advantage.

The bradys have deep pockets and lots of support and the way to beat em is by being smarter and knowing when to make a move with a winning hand. The other thing that many CA owners have wade through is all the FUD around a firearm. It would be just as easy to go at someone with a knife as it would be a gun but knife violence dosnt make the 5 oclock news.

Best thing you can do is become versed in the CA gun laws abide by them and encourage as many non gun owners to try a firearm out and see if they will a better understanding of what it is they are up in arms over.

[rshoemaker]

Cite?

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In McDonald v. Chicago (2010), the Court ruled that the Second Amendment limits state and local governments to the same extent that it limits the federal government.

From Widipedia so I could be wrong

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Second_Amendment_to_the_United_States_Constitution

[DSTER]

DEJU VO

This is why I voted for Meg Whitman in spite of some reservations I had about her. Governor Brown a "gun owner" must be aware as anyone with any attention span that the last rifle registration led to a ginormous confiscation of rifles. DEJU VO... Its a Fabian strategy that being utilized by the Elitists etc... in other words it is an incremental erosion of the right to own and carry a firearm as well as arms and the wearing of protective arms (body-armor).

[rp55]

Current federal law prohibits record keeping of longguns

There's been long gun registration in place in several states since the 1940's and still going strong.

[jdberger]

yes majority does start 2014 but starting today gunshops have to also register each longgun on an individual dros requiring 30 per lg. what a state racket to collect funds.

Please either post or PM me with the name of the gun store that told you this.

This information is incorrect.

FWIW - the Bright Spot story is linked here.

[ubet]

OP, GO FOR IT!!!!! PM me, I will be there with you, because I REALLY want to see you walk up to moonbeam, twist his arm around his back, put his hands in a zip tie and deliver him to the sac pd! That would be instant classic! If Jack Bauer could kidnap the president on a tv show, I am sure you could citizen arrest moonbeam.

You might need to work out a little bit of strategy, but I think you can get this done, you will be all of ours' hero!























































sarcasm off!