Moving back to Kali?

[lpspinner]

Well it's been 2 1/2 years since I left this wonderful state, but the job may be forcing me back here.

Question is....what about all the toys I've collected since then.

Didn't I read somewhere in the laws that an out of state resident when the move here can turn them into an AWFFL and then fill out the registration requirements then pick them up ten days later?

[50 Freak]

Not unless your military....

Sorry. Think of it of a 2.5 year vacation.

Welcome back anyways. The more gun nuts in Cali, the better.

[CriticalError]

Make sure you buy all the handguns you could or want before moving back here (assuming they don't meet the AW features) .

[50 Freak]

Where are you moving back to?

[Richard]

also those SH**Y Cobray PM11 seem to average around $800 on PPT...

Assault weapons (which includes handguns with threaded barrels, i.e. Walther, H&K tactical): I think you can't bring them in. In theory, there might be a way to get a permit for them. Real experts on that will have to speak up.

You have to leave all your magazines with more than 10-round capacity outside the state.

Here is something important though: you can bring in ANY handgun (that is not an assault weapon, meaning no threaded barrel) with you. INCLUDING ONES THAT ARE OTHERWISE NOT AVAILABLE IN THE STATE due to the "roster of safe handguns". This includes models that are quite sought after in California. Once you are in the state, you have to register the newly imported handguns with the DoJ (forms are easy to find on the DoJ website, registration fee is reasonable). Once you have done that, you can sell the guns you brought in. Rumor has it that these off-roster handguns fetch pretty good prices in California, because there is demand, and nearly no supply.

Now it is clearly not advisable to turn this into a business; being a gun dealer without getting the required licenses is clearly illegal. But if you just buy a few extra handguns outside California (use this forum and similar forums to see what models are highly sought after, and to privately make contact with potential buyers without attracting attention), then move with those guns, and then a while later sell them, that should be OK.

The H&K Mark23 is very rare in California, and quite a cult gun. But due to its threaded barrel it can not be brought into the state. If you want to bring one with you, make sure you first remove the threads. Either have a gunsmith machine the threads off, maybe first get a spare barrel from H&K and so the gun can be restored to its original state if it leaves California again, or buy an aftermarket barrel (Jarvis etc) that is not threaded.

Another example is the Sig P226 X-5; look in the handgun forum for some discussion of it; if you brought one into the state, it would be likely that you would be able to find people that want one.

[bwiese]

I would be very interested in your attempting to file a request for an assault weapons permit - and see if it is granted or denied, and for which reasons.

You cannot reg your AWs you're bringing back (well, perhaps you have some off-list receivers that could have their features removed from and then they might be registerable if they do come up declared as AWs in the next few weeks). You can try to get a 'permit', however.

[lpspinner]

Well, I don't know how soon, but I may keep my other residence for a short while. Even if I do. It's only a 20 hour drive east in good weather.

My job is now being outsourced, so I'm trying to transfer.

I know I can convert my L1A1 to fix mag, but what about all my Romy's built on Tapco flats? Gotta find a way.

I was thinking about investing in a few Vulcan Arms Carbon Fiber lowers cause they are so inexpensive. Maybe a Stag or two as they cost a little more.

Hmmmm, my only problem is once I have it, it's kinda hard to let go, no matter how much you make. Ok..call me a gun whore. But I get the message.

At one time bout 4 years back, DOJ sent me the applications for AW, SBR and Type 3 weapons. She asked if I needed one for Destructive devices, but I said no.( forgot about Yugo SKS's) I was deemed as needing it, but the fees would've ran a fortune and I also accepted a position away from Kali. I still have the package as a trophy.

[PanzerAce]

my advice? If you have to move or might have to move back to Cali, see if you can get an AW permit. If not, try and work somewhere else :/

[grammaton76]

At one time bout 4 years back, DOJ sent me the applications for AW, SBR and Type 3 weapons. She asked if I needed one for Destructive devices, but I said no.( forgot about Yugo SKS's) I was deemed as needing it, but the fees would've ran a fortune and I also accepted a position away from Kali. I still have the package as a trophy.

Just curious, but how much do the fees tend to run on AW permits, and what constitutes "needing it"? I imagine an AW permit is probably a lot tougher to show 'good cause' for than a CCW, and CCW's of course are hard to get.

And if your AW permit lapses, do you have to dispose of all your AW's, or is it merely a permit to acquire?

[Pablo]

Well it's been 2 1/2 years since I left this wonderful state, but the job may be forcing me back here.

Question is....what about all the toys I've collected since then.

Didn't I read somewhere in the laws that an out of state resident when the move here can turn them into an AWFFL and then fill out the registration requirements then pick them up ten days later?

Maybe you can storage your toys outside CA or leave them with a family member? Who knows, you might have to leave CA again sometime in the future?

[lpspinner]

Just curious, but how much do the fees tend to run on AW permits, and what constitutes "needing it"? I imagine an AW permit is probably a lot tougher to show 'good cause' for than a CCW, and CCW's of course are hard to get.

And if your AW permit lapses, do you have to dispose of all your AW's, or is it merely a permit to acquire?

This is the sheet for 2001/2002 Fiscal Year

$56.00 of the total fee is for fingerprint processing.

Tear Gas Permit
Total $177 Renewal $43
Additional Location
Total $121 Renewal $43 (no fingerprint proccessing)

Proctective Tear Gas System Permit
Total $177 Renewal $43

Destructive Device Permit
Total $280 Renewal $88

SBR/Shotgun
Total $280 Renewal $88


Machine Gun Permit
Total $280 Renewal $88
Machine Gun License
Total $280 Renewal $88
Machine Gun Both
Total $239 Renewal $103

AW Permit
Total $280 Renewal $88

More the one permit add another $15 to the total

Of the $56 for fingerprint procccessing fee, $32 goes to the DOJ and $24 to the FBI.

As for afterwards..it doesn't say. It just talks about hearings and appeals if revoked or denied.

"needing it" meant that because I was in possession of said articles because of my family business. (Don't really want to go into detail.)

[shopkeep]

Well it's been 2 1/2 years since I left this wonderful state, but the job may be forcing me back here.

Question is....what about all the toys I've collected since then.

Didn't I read somewhere in the laws that an out of state resident when the move here can turn them into an AWFFL and then fill out the registration requirements then pick them up ten days later?

ABANDON ALL HOPE YEE WHO ENTER !!!!

heheheh actually it's not that bad now that we've got guys like Ben, Josh, Hector, Wes, and others around...

First it was .223 rifle recievers... I can only imagine what the follow-up to this all will be.