loaning a handgun to someone who does not have an HSC

[dantodd]

Ok, but it isn't true.

thanks for posting the exemption.

[paul0660]

thanks for posting the exemption.

Yw. Took some advanced googlefu. They used to include the pc number with their faqs, but no more.

[ALSystems]

It is always a bad idea to loan your guns, motorcycle and wife.

In that order?

[Smokeybehr]

(4) Any person who has successfully completed the course of
training specified in Section 832.

Does this mean that I can wave my PC832 letter from before the HSC came about at my local FFL and not have to deal with renewing my expired HSC?

[paul0660]

Does this mean that I can wave my PC832 letter from before the HSC came about at my local FFL and not have to deal with renewing my expired HSC?

Yes

http://ag.ca.gov/firearms/forms/pdf/hscman.pdf

[sholling]

Never loan a gun out - it's very bad idea. My only exceptions are my father or brother.

+1 I never ever loan guns out. I might let a friend shoot my weapons under my direct supervision but no guns leave my sight.

[otalps]

Ok, but it isn't true.

Whoah, there's no family exemption. What is the penalty for loaning to someone without and HSC?

I wonder how often this law get's broken everyday in this state.

[tankarian]

In that order?

No. They're equally important so there is no priority there.

[scarville]

Whoah, there's no family exemption. What is the penalty for loaning to someone without and HSC?

I wonder how often this law get's broken everyday in this state.

I guess a man cannot let his wife have one of his gun unless she has an HSC. Gotta wonder what other pro-violence and rape-friendly laws those idiots in Sacramento have created.

[dantodd]

Yw. Took some advanced googlefu. They used to include the pc number with their faqs, but no more.

Probably because of the renumbering that is being phased in. I'm pretty sure the new numbers are already officially in effect but I almost always use the DOJ site for gun laws and they are out of date.

[Swiss]

Thank you for pointing that out. Why the heck isn't that exemption there?

Whoah, there's no family exemption. What is the penalty for loaning to someone without and HSC?

I wonder how often this law get's broken everyday in this state.

[otalps]

I guess a man cannot let his wife have one of his gun unless she has an HSC.

That's exactly what I was thinking. There are a lot of people that never even heard of an HSC that probably loan handguns to their spouses for whatever reason everyday.

[marcusrn]

CCW civilians or PC 832 civilian holders are exempt from HSC.

Years ago when I learned to shoot pistols at Orange County Sheriffs range they delighted in instructing civilians who were serious about shooting. They let me take a PC 832 class for no fee and thereafter they let me shoot with LEO on the rapid fire side of their outdoor range.They promoted the cops who were serious shooters in those days and who enjoyed instructing. I will always feel indebted to those people.

We live in different times now. So sad. Still NRA programs train good percentage of LEO in this country.

[Mssr. Eleganté]

Your police officer friend still needs an HSC in order to borrow your handgun on his own. The police officer exemption posted above is only for the HSC requirements of PC Section 12801(b). So if you loan it to him by temporarily transferring it to him through a California licensed dealer (PPT with DROS) then he is exempt from needing an HSC. You would then have to do another PPT at a dealer to get it back from him after the loan.

But you are planning to loan it to him via the 12078(d) dealerless 30 day loan. There is no HSC exemption for law enforcement under 12078(d).