After a gun expires.

[ajwells]

What happens after the expiration date of a gun? lets say that a S&W .500 has an expiration date in california law of may 2006. Then what? once that time comes, what happens?

[BigRich]

It simply falls off the certified list. If it is not recertified it cannot be sold by an FFL dealer. It can still be possessed, used and PPT (through an FFL dealer). Essentially DOJ is saying "Show me the money."

[ajwells]

Ah okay, cool.

[ohsmily]

What happens after the expiration date of a gun? lets say that a S&W .500 has an expiration date in california law of may 2006. Then what? once that time comes, what happens?

They break down your door, enter with submachine guns, sodomize you with a pineapple and when finished, take ALL your guns away...better bury all of them QUICK...

[Rumpled]

When it expires you must stop using it, it will smell like bad milk.
I will dispose of it properly for you if you would like.







jk You got the correct answer above.

[blacklisted]

When my guns expire I am going to have a funeral for them.

[Harbinger]

My Glock doesn't have a 'born-on' date. Am I screwed?

When it expires you must stop using it, it will smell like bad milk.
I will dispose of it properly for you if you would like.







jk You got the correct answer above.

[xenophobe]

Of course, there is the new law coming into effect. Once a gun drops off the list, it will need to be recertified.

If it is a semi-automatic, if it did not previously have a live round indicator, it will not be recertifiable.

Manufacturers who wish to consider selling to California will have to redesign their semi-automatic pistols, most likely with a new extractor that will show a red tab when a round is chambered.

Next year, if the same firearm does not have a magazine disconnector, magazine safety or magazine shut off, which prevents the firearm from being fired without a magazine, then it will not be certifiable.

[ohsmily]

Of course, there is the new law coming into effect. Once a gun drops off the list, it will need to be recertified.

If it is a semi-automatic, if it did not previously have a live round indicator, it will not be recertifiable.

Manufacturers who wish to consider selling to California will have to redesign their semi-automatic pistols, most likely with a new extractor that will show a red tab when a round is chambered.

Next year, if the same firearm does not have a magazine disconnector, magazine safety or magazine shut off, which prevents the firearm from being fired without a magazine, then it will not be certifiable.

you aren't quite right on this. This year, as a base requirement to be certified, it must have EITHER a chamber loaded indicator OR a magazine disconnect.

Next year, as you correctly stated, they must have both. But again, this year, they have to have EITHER (not specifically a chamber loaded indicator).

And it is a chamber loaded indicator not a "live round indicator". They don't indicate whether a round is live or not, just whether there is one in the chamber.

NOTE: If pistol currently on the list does not have these features, it will remain on the list as long as the manufacturer continues to renew it. However, if they lapse in their renewal and it falls off, then it will have to have the proper features to be recertified.

[xenophobe]

Ah, thanks for the clarification.

[leelaw]

They break down your door, enter with submachine guns, sodomize you with a pineapple and when finished, take ALL your guns away...better bury all of them QUICK...

I hear they're going to put out a revised list of "wanted: fell-off-the-list guns" tomorrow.

[1911_sfca]

Some manufacturer should sue the state for unequal treatment under the law. The "roster of safe handguns" purports to tell us what guns are "safe" and thus can be sold. However, guns that were certified as safe after 1/1/06 (and 1/1/07) have to meet different standards than some that are already on the list. The only reason that some guns get to stay on the list is because they were already there, *and* the manufacturer pays off the government. This is extortion, and unequal application of the legislation. If magazine disconnects and loaded chamber indicators truly make a gun safer, ALL guns on the list should be required to have them, not just guns designed and/or submitted for testing after 1/1/06.

They are unfairly interfering in commerce. It would be the same deal if the federal government (NHTSA) told car manufacturers, any new car that we allow to be sold in the U.S. after 1998 must have dual air bags. But any car that was already on the market and continues to be sold, can get by with only a driver's side airbag.

Can you imagine what would happen?