Pre 1898 firearm inside a GFSZ?

[gun toting monkeyboy]

Ok, I started wondering about this after posting in the felons/pre 98 mauser thread.

If the GFSZ is a Federal law, and the Federal government considers pre-1898 firearms to be non-guns, can we UOC them inside the 1000' zone? I mean, by definition, it isn't a firearm to the Feds. You can't violate the GFSZ with something that they have told you is NOT a firearm, can you? Just curious.

-Mb

[Mssr. Eleganté]

...If the GFSZ is a Federal law, and the Federal government considers pre-1898 firearms to be non-guns, can we UOC them inside the 1000' zone?

California has its own gun free school zone law. So even though the Feds couldn't touch you, California could throw you in prison.

[gun toting monkeyboy]

California has its own gun free school zone law. So even though the Feds couldn't touch you, California could throw you in prison.

Dang. I thought I had found a cool new loophole. Oh well.

[fd15k]

+

[GettoPhilosopher]

I've been wondering about CA GFSZ laws.

This section does not prohibit or limit the otherwise lawful
transportation of any other firearm, other than a pistol,
revolver, or other firearm capable of being concealed on the
person, in accordance with state law.

So by CA law (ignoring Fed GFSZ), you can lawfully transport of any other firearm (i.e. long guns). This is why as far as CA is concerned, you do not need to lock up your unloaded long guns while driving them. However, Fed says they must be locked in a case.

If this is true, and the wording is "otherwise lawful transportation".....does this mean by CA law you could UOC a long gun in a school zone? (I know, Fed would still nail you. But solely as far as CA goes?)

[choprzrul]

MMM: Mauser March Movement

.

[Anchors]

I've been wondering about CA GFSZ laws.



So by CA law (ignoring Fed GFSZ), you can lawfully transport of any other firearm (i.e. long guns). This is why as far as CA is concerned, you do not need to lock up your unloaded long guns while driving them. However, Fed says they must be locked in a case.

If this is true, and the wording is "otherwise lawful transportation".....does this mean by CA law you could UOC a long gun in a school zone? (I know, Fed would still nail you. But solely as far as CA goes?)

What about a federally registered AOW, legally owned in CA with an NFA trust?
This is not a handgun:


I guess that would still run afoul with FGFSZ even if it would pass CAGFSZ..
Plus it would look terrible and be really stupid to actually shoot with your hand on that grip (there's a video of a guy that had one on a FA Glock and it broke and he shot himself in the hand )

[tabrisnet]

What, not a Mille Mauser March ? (Mille so we'd only need 1000)

[ckprax]

CA GFSZ is only for handguns, the federal GFSZ includes long guns. Since the mauser is not a firearm, it would seem to be legal. I wouldn't try it.

A slight twist on this would be to openly carry an unloaded black powder muzzleloader. Since they are not considered to be firearms unless loaded.

[Mssr. Eleganté]

CA GFSZ is only for handguns, the federal GFSZ includes long guns. Since the mauser is not a firearm, it would seem to be legal. I wouldn't try it.

The CA GFSZ includes possession of long guns, unless you are "transporting" them. I don't know how they define "transportation" in the law though.