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With respect to "LE" serialed AR15 receivers, are they treated any differently under Kalifornia or Federal law as to bans, registration, etc.?
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Originally posted by SilverTauronOriginally posted by loose_electron -
They shouldn't be....
....But at this late date you don't want anything to cause problems.
Get any off-list lower you can, and one that doesn't have risk of causing controversy. All brands will serve you equally well to make an accurate, functional self-loading rifle.
Some folks had receivers (RB? Superior?) that had an inoperative 'AUTO' marking seized from their FFL by DOJ recently. It could well be that this issue is resolved AFTER these lowers are declared AWs and after 30 days from the DROS date, so these folks could be SOL.
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Auto is different.
LEO marked guns are 1000% legal to own.. These were only manufacturer markings designating that they could use hi-cap mags during the federal AW ban
read here, 3rd paragraph....
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Uh, no. ANY AR could legally use hi-caps during the AWB. You are thinking of AW physical features. LEO marked ARs (assuming it was possessed by a bonafide LE officer) could have all pre-ban features during the AWB. Post-Ban guns could only have one feature, either a pistol grip, b-lug, collapsible stock or flash hider, but all ARs could use ANY hi-caps that were not LEO marked post-ban hi-cap mags.Originally posted by EBWhiteLast edited by monkey; 02-01-2006, 4:53 PM.Comment
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No, i believe you are wrong.
Post ban guns were sold with 10 rd mags. ONLY leo marked guns were allowed to use them and they were allowed to have different evil features...
Now that the AWB is no longer a federal law, according to the ATF, restricted lowers are 100% legal to buy and own.Comment
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This is correct.Originally posted by monkeyIn a letter dated December 28th 2005 Deputy Attorney General Alison Merrilees stated:
"You should also be aware that we intend to add it soon to the DOJ Assault Weapons Identification Guide. Therefore, the Stag-15 will soon be classified as an assault weapon."
To Mrs. Merrilees I ask:
Whats your definition of soon?Comment
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This is wrong.Originally posted by EBWhiteIn a letter dated December 28th 2005 Deputy Attorney General Alison Merrilees stated:
"You should also be aware that we intend to add it soon to the DOJ Assault Weapons Identification Guide. Therefore, the Stag-15 will soon be classified as an assault weapon."
To Mrs. Merrilees I ask:
Whats your definition of soon?Comment
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Okay, if that is correct, then why would there be a problem owing a reciever marked leo on it when you have an ATF letter saying it is okay?Comment
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I never never saw a post ban gun sold with an clip larger than 10rds... during the ban.Comment
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I never said it wasn't.Originally posted by EBWhite
Read the part of your post which I quoted...notice I left something out?In a letter dated December 28th 2005 Deputy Attorney General Alison Merrilees stated:
"You should also be aware that we intend to add it soon to the DOJ Assault Weapons Identification Guide. Therefore, the Stag-15 will soon be classified as an assault weapon."
To Mrs. Merrilees I ask:
Whats your definition of soon?Comment
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While the Federal Assault Weapon BAN did ban the importation of large capacity magazines, the 10rd ban has nothing to do with Federal law, it is a state issue.Originally posted by EBWhiteIn a letter dated December 28th 2005 Deputy Attorney General Alison Merrilees stated:
"You should also be aware that we intend to add it soon to the DOJ Assault Weapons Identification Guide. Therefore, the Stag-15 will soon be classified as an assault weapon."
To Mrs. Merrilees I ask:
Whats your definition of soon?Comment
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Okay, but you agree that i am correct on that issue?
Don't get mad, you seem a little ticked off.Comment
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With regard to the above statement, you are 100% correct.Originally posted by EBWhite
And I'm not mad, just multi-tasking various projects, so I'm short wording my responses.
In a letter dated December 28th 2005 Deputy Attorney General Alison Merrilees stated:
"You should also be aware that we intend to add it soon to the DOJ Assault Weapons Identification Guide. Therefore, the Stag-15 will soon be classified as an assault weapon."
To Mrs. Merrilees I ask:
Whats your definition of soon?Comment
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This is how it worked.
The Federal Assault Weapons Ban was really part of the Violent Crime Control and Law Enforcement Act of 1994.
It was enacted on September 13, 1994 and banned the manufacture and import of assault weapons defined by Congress. The law made it a federal crime for a private individual to possess or transfer a semiautomatic assault weapon manufactured after that date. Assault weapons manufactured on or before that date, and legally within the U.S., were considered grandfathered, and could legally be possessed and transferred. The law defined assault weapons as nineteen named firearms, as well as semiautomatic rifles, pistols, and shotguns that have certain characteristics:
1. Any of the firearms, or copies or duplicates of the firearms in any caliber, known as:
a. Norinco, Mitchell, and Poly Technologies Avtomat Kalashnikovs (all models);
b. Action Arms Israeli Military Industries UZI and Galil;
c. Beretta Ar70 (SC-70);
d. Colt AR-15;
e. Fabrique National FN/FAL, FN/LAR, and FNC;
f. SWD M-10, M-11, M-11/9, and M-12;
g. Steyr AUG;
h. INTRATEC TEC-9, TEC-DC9 and TEC-22; and
i. revolving cylinder shotguns, such as (or similar to) the Street Sweeper and Striker 12;
2. A semiautomatic rifle that has an ability to accept a detachable magazine and has at least 2 of the following:
a. a folding or telescoping stock;
b. a pistol grip that protrudes conspicuously beneath the action of the weapon;
c. a bayonet mount;
d. a flash suppressor or threaded barrel designed to accommodate a flash suppressor; and
e. a grenade launcher;
3. A semiautomatic pistol that has an ability to accept a detachable magazine and has at least 2 of the following:
a. an ammunition magazine that attaches to the pistol outside of the pistol grip;
b. a threaded barrel capable of accepting a barrel extender, flash suppressor, forward handgrip, or silencer;
c. a shroud that is attached to, or partially or completely encircles, the barrel and that permits the shooter to hold the firearm with the non-trigger hand without being burned;
d. a manufactured weight of 50 ounces or more when the pistol is unloaded; and
e. a semiautomatic version of an automatic firearm;
4. A semiautomatic shotgun that has at least 2 of the following:
a. a folding or telescoping stock;
b. a pistol grip that protrudes conspicuously beneath the action of the weapon;
c. a fixed magazine capacity in excess of 5 rounds; and
d. an ability to accept a detachable magazine.In a letter dated December 28th 2005 Deputy Attorney General Alison Merrilees stated:
"You should also be aware that we intend to add it soon to the DOJ Assault Weapons Identification Guide. Therefore, the Stag-15 will soon be classified as an assault weapon."
To Mrs. Merrilees I ask:
Whats your definition of soon?Comment
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Originally posted by EBWhite
I can't imagine where or why one would obtain an "ATF letter saying it is okay"
Could you explain?Originally posted by SilverTauronOriginally posted by loose_electronComment
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