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  • baih777
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    • Jul 2011
    • 5679

    30rd Magazine laws

    I have been searching here for the law regarding 30rd magazines.
    my weapons are RAW . I am still waiting for my copies from the DOJ.
    It seems i can use my 30rd mags with and only my RAW ? Is this true ?
    i want to start shooting again and dont want to spend a fortune on 10rd mags.
    can someone post the link for the law so i can keep a copy with my mags and weapons.
    thanks
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    sevensix2x51
    Veteran Member
    • Sep 2009
    • 3835

    Magazines: All the answers you need.

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    • #3
      Librarian
      Admin and Poltergeist
      CGN Contributor - Lifetime
      • Oct 2005
      • 44627

      Originally posted by baih777
      I have been searching here for the law regarding 30rd magazines.
      my weapons are RAW . I am still waiting for my copies from the DOJ.
      It seems i can use my 30rd mags with and only my RAW ? Is this true ?
      i want to start shooting again and dont want to spend a fortune on 10rd mags.
      can someone post the link for the law so i can keep a copy with my mags and weapons.
      thanks
      guys
      There are no explicit laws covering 30-round magazines.

      The only division is between 10 rounds or fewer, and more than 10 rounds, the latter called 'large-capacity magazines' in the Penal Code.

      If you have a registered 'assault weapon' (RAW), and you legally owned large-capacity magazines in California before 2000, then YES you MAY use those large capacity magazines in the RAW.

      The issue is that using an AR-type 'off list lower' with features, such as a pistol grip, requires a 'magazine lock' (e.g. a 'bullet button'); otherwise, you can't have the features. But an OLL with features and a bullet button effectively becomes a fixed magazine weapon, by legal definition. To use a 10+ round magazine in a fixed-magazine weapon triggers a different definition of 'assault weapon'.

      Your RAW most likely does not have a 'bullet button', and being registered already, it cannot be even more of an 'assault weapon'.
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      • #4
        Andy Taylor
        Senior Member
        • Dec 2007
        • 1367

        You may use them in your RAW. You may use them in a "Featureless" rifle. You may not use them in a bullet button, fixed magazine type rifle/pistol with "features".

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        • #5
          dantodd
          Calguns Addict
          • Aug 2009
          • 9360

          Originally posted by Andy Taylor
          You may use them in your RAW. You may use them in a "Featureless" rifle. You may not use them in a bullet button, fixed magazine type rifle/pistol with "features" period.
          FYP. even a "featureless" weapon with a fixed magazine (e.g. bullet button) cannot use magazines with a capacity greater than 10rds.
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          • #6
            dwtt
            Calguns Addict
            • Oct 2005
            • 7470

            Originally posted by dantodd
            FYP. even a "featureless" weapon with a fixed magazine (e.g. bullet button) cannot use magazines with a capacity greater than 10rds.
            My rifle was a featureless A2 build. I didn't see any sense in putting in a magazine lock like the bullet button. I doubt anyone would intentionally put on a magazine lock on a featureless build.

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            • #7
              CHS
              Moderator Emeritus
              CGN Contributor - Lifetime
              • Jan 2008
              • 11338

              Originally posted by dwtt
              My rifle was a featureless A2 build. I didn't see any sense in putting in a magazine lock like the bullet button. I doubt anyone would intentionally put on a magazine lock on a featureless build.
              I've had friends that in the early days of OLL's were so paranoid that they used Prince50's AND monsterman grips to be "extra legal". I tried to explain to them that there is no such thing and in reality both the Prince50 and MMG are just two different ways of being "compliant", which is all that matters.

              They have since gone to features + bullet buttons.
              Please read the Calguns Wiki
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