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  • yellowfin
    Calguns Addict
    • Nov 2007
    • 8371

    Michigan AG Gets It Right, Legalizes Suppressors



    Up to this point, MI state law has been held to mean that individuals couldn't own suppressors legally in the state. Now, MI joins the vast majority of other states, at least 38 now so far out of the 50, that agree with gun owners' right to own them so long as they comply with federal law (proper form, $200 tax stamp, etc.). BIG kudos to AG Schutte for doing the right thing.

    This is a press release, so obviously not a copyright issue.
    LANSING - Michigan Attorney General Bill Schuette today issued a formal Attorney General Opinion stating that State law allows the use of noise suppressors by private citizens when authorized by the Federal Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives.

    "Michigan citizens who comply with federal firearm regulations can use suppressors to protect their hearing and minimize noise disruptions in the surrounding areas," said Schuette.

    Schuette concludes in Attorney General Opinion 7260 that only Michigan residents in full compliance with federal laws may possess a federally-registered suppressor, also commonly referred to as a muffler or silencer. Possession of a suppressor without the proper federal authorization remains a five-year felony under Michigan law.

    Although suppressors do not completely eliminate the sound of a firearm, they do reduce the noise associated with gunfire in a manner similar to how a muffler reduces exhaust noise from a motor vehicle. Suppressors protect shooters' hearing and also reduce noise complaints from neighbors in the vicinity of firearm use, whether it is near a shooting range or hunting property. Thirty-seven states currently allow private ownership of suppressors, including Ohio, Indiana and Wisconsin.

    "Noise suppressors are a useful tool for Michigan firearms enthusiasts and the rigorous federal licensing process serves as a safeguard to ensure only law-abiding citizens can be in possession," said Marquette County Sheriff Michael Lovelace.

    "Michigan joins the majority of states allowing noise suppressors for lawful firearms users while continuing to afford law enforcement the ability to prosecute those who break the law and place public safety at risk," said Hillsdale County Prosecutor Neal Brady.

    "The use of suppressors will help keep the peace in areas of lawful firearm use," said Barry County Sheriff Dar Leaf. "While you can never completely silence a firearm, muffling the sound will be appreciated by neighbors in the vicinity of lawful firearm use."

    "We thank Attorney General Schuette for this well-reasoned opinion, which will allow Michigan residents to possess suppressors in compliance with federal law," said Chuck Cunningham, NRA-ILA Director of State and Local Affairs. "Noise suppressors are an effective means of reducing hearing loss among shooters, and we are pleased that shooters in Michigan, like those in 38 other states, will now have the freedom to choose these useful safety devices."

    "Attorney General Bill Schuette has now brought us into the mainstream by issuing an opinion allowing law abiding citizens of the State of Michigan to own sound suppressing devices for their firearms," said Joel Fulton, President of the Southside Sportsman Club. "It is considered rude to your neighbors to make excessive noise that disrupts their peace and quiet. We have mufflers on just about everything to reduce noise pollution."

    It is the Attorney General's duty "to give his opinion upon all questions of law submitted to him by the legislature or either branch thereof, or by the governor . . . or any other state officer" (MCL 14.32). To fulfill that duty, Attorney General Schuette issues informational letters as well as formal Attorney General Opinions in response to requests from the legislature, state agencies, and the governor.

    Attorney General Opinion 7260 was issued at the request of Senator Rick Jones, Senator Tonia Schuitmaker, Representative Mark Meadows, and Representative Kevin Cotter.
    Full text of the opinion is here: http://www.ag.state.mi.us/opinion/da...0s/op10339.htm

    Ahem... so, uhm... what's the problem still with the other 11? (Including CA and the one I'm temporarily parked in)
    Last edited by yellowfin; 09-02-2011, 2:10 PM.
    "You can't stop insane people from doing insane things with insane laws. That's insane!" -- Penn Jillette
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    In Pennsylvania Your permit to carry concealed is called a License to carry fire arms. Other states call it a CCW. In New Jersey it's called a crime.
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    Connor P Price
    Senior Member
    • Jan 2009
    • 1897

    Originally posted by yellowfin
    Ahem... so, uhm... what's the problem still with the other 12? (Including CA and the one I'm temporarily parked in)
    The problem in the other 12 is that their knowledge of firearms comes from two places. The first - television and movies where silencers reduce the report of a firearm to a "pew pew" that can't even be heard five feet away indoors. The second - feel good legislation and pandering to soccermoms by Brady's and anti-gun politicians who paint anything gun related as terrible and dangerous.

    Learning about firearms from people that know nothing about firearms. Makes sense right?
    Last edited by Connor P Price; 09-02-2011, 1:57 PM.
    Originally posted by wildhawker
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    • #3
      CHS
      Moderator Emeritus
      CGN Contributor - Lifetime
      • Jan 2008
      • 11338

      Originally posted by yellowfin
      Ahem... so, uhm... what's the problem still with the other 12? (Including CA and the one I'm temporarily parked in)
      Oh you didn't hear? Silencers are used by ASSASSINS TO MURDER BABIES.
      Please read the Calguns Wiki
      Laws that forbid the carrying of arms...disarm only those who are neither inclined nor determined to commit crimes...Such laws make things worse for the assaulted and better for the assailants; they serve rather to encourage than to prevent homicides, for an unarmed man may be attacked with greater confidence than an armed man.
      --Cesare, Marquis of Beccaria, "On Crimes and Punishment"

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      • #4
        yellowfin
        Calguns Addict
        • Nov 2007
        • 8371

        Originally posted by CHS
        Oh you didn't hear? Silencers are used by ASSASSINS TO MURDER BABIES.
        On that basis I'd expect the CA political system to approve of them...
        Last edited by yellowfin; 09-02-2011, 1:55 PM.
        "You can't stop insane people from doing insane things with insane laws. That's insane!" -- Penn Jillette
        Originally posted by indiandave
        In Pennsylvania Your permit to carry concealed is called a License to carry fire arms. Other states call it a CCW. In New Jersey it's called a crime.
        Discretionary Issue is the new Separate but Equal.

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        • #5
          Glock22Fan
          Calguns Addict
          • May 2006
          • 5752

          Originally posted by CHS
          Oh you didn't hear? Silencers are used by ASSASSINS TO MURDER BABIES KITTENS.
          Corrected it for you.
          John -- bitter gun owner.

          All opinions expressed here are my own unless I say otherwise.
          I am not a lawyer and this is not legal advice.

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          • #6
            Toolbox X
            Veteran Member
            • Jan 2005
            • 2602

            Michigan legalizes suppressors



            (Before you Dupe Police me, the other post about this was titled poorly, and this is a big deal.)

            Schuette: Federally Registered Noise Suppressors Permitted Under State Law
            Contact: John Sellek or Joy Yearout 517-373-8060
            Agency: Attorney General


            LANSING - Michigan Attorney General Bill Schuette today issued a formal Attorney General Opinion stating that State law allows the use of noise suppressors by private citizens when authorized by the Federal Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives.

            "Michigan citizens who comply with federal firearm regulations can use suppressors to protect their hearing and minimize noise disruptions in the surrounding areas," said Schuette.

            Schuette concludes in Attorney General Opinion 7260 that only Michigan residents in full compliance with federal laws may possess a federally-registered suppressor, also commonly referred to as a muffler or silencer. Possession of a suppressor without the proper federal authorization remains a five-year felony under Michigan law.

            Although suppressors do not completely eliminate the sound of a firearm, they do reduce the noise associated with gunfire in a manner similar to how a muffler reduces exhaust noise from a motor vehicle. Suppressors protect shooters' hearing and also reduce noise complaints from neighbors in the vicinity of firearm use, whether it is near a shooting range or hunting property. Thirty-seven states currently allow private ownership of suppressors, including Ohio, Indiana and Wisconsin.

            "Noise suppressors are a useful tool for Michigan firearms enthusiasts and the rigorous federal licensing process serves as a safeguard to ensure only law-abiding citizens can be in possession," said Marquette County Sheriff Michael Lovelace.

            "Michigan joins the majority of states allowing noise suppressors for lawful firearms users while continuing to afford law enforcement the ability to prosecute those who break the law and place public safety at risk," said Hillsdale County Prosecutor Neal Brady.

            "The use of suppressors will help keep the peace in areas of lawful firearm use," said Barry County Sheriff Dar Leaf. "While you can never completely silence a firearm, muffling the sound will be appreciated by neighbors in the vicinity of lawful firearm use."

            "We thank Attorney General Schuette for this well-reasoned opinion, which will allow Michigan residents to possess suppressors in compliance with federal law," said Chuck Cunningham, NRA-ILA Director of State and Local Affairs. "Noise suppressors are an effective means of reducing hearing loss among shooters, and we are pleased that shooters in Michigan, like those in 38 other states, will now have the freedom to choose these useful safety devices."

            "Attorney General Bill Schuette has now brought us into the mainstream by issuing an opinion allowing law abiding citizens of the State of Michigan to own sound suppressing devices for their firearms," said Joel Fulton, President of the Southside Sportsman Club. "It is considered rude to your neighbors to make excessive noise that disrupts their peace and quiet. We have mufflers on just about everything to reduce noise pollution."

            It is the Attorney General's duty "to give his opinion upon all questions of law submitted to him by the legislature or either branch thereof, or by the governor . . . or any other state officer" (MCL 14.32). To fulfill that duty, Attorney General Schuette issues informational letters as well as formal Attorney General Opinions in response to requests from the legislature, state agencies, and the governor.

            Attorney General Opinion 7260 was issued at the request of Senator Rick Jones, Senator Tonia Schuitmaker, Representative Mark Meadows, and Representative Kevin Cotter.

            Formal opinions are available for review on the Attorney General's website, www.michigan.gov/agopinions.

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            • #7
              Maestro Pistolero
              Veteran Member
              • Apr 2009
              • 3897

              Hah! was posted a whole minute earlier here: http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/s...d.php?t=473643

              Combine threads?

              Great news, BTW.
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              • #8
                joefreas
                • Jan 2010
                • 2421


                For them!
                If you think nobody cares if you're alive, try missing a couple of payments.

                Originally posted by XDRoX
                Walking around with a banana in a holster won't do anything but get you laughed at.
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                • #9
                  Stonewalker
                  Veteran Member
                  • Jun 2010
                  • 2780

                  This is great news!!!! Think about what this is doing for the normalization of firearms. Brick by brick people!
                  member: Electronic Frontier Foundation, NRA, CGF

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                  • #10
                    RobG
                    Veteran Member
                    • Dec 2006
                    • 4887

                    Good on them. Depressing for Kalifornians.

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                    • #11
                      Crom
                      Senior Member
                      • Feb 2010
                      • 1619

                      Originally posted by Stonewalker
                      This is great news!!!! Think about what this is doing for the normalization of firearms. Brick by brick people!
                      ^This x1,000. Normalization is key.

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                      • #12
                        Stonewalker
                        Veteran Member
                        • Jun 2010
                        • 2780

                        Originally posted by RobG
                        Good on them. Depressing for Kalifornians.
                        No it's not! We can now point to recent de-criminalizations as examples of no-blood-in-the-streets. This is good stuff. Like LTC, this **** needs to fall one card at a time.
                        member: Electronic Frontier Foundation, NRA, CGF

                        Deer Hunting Rifles? "Let's get rid of those too" - Adam Keigwin, Chief of Staff for Senator Leland Yee

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                        • #13
                          Connor P Price
                          Senior Member
                          • Jan 2009
                          • 1897

                          Originally posted by Stonewalker
                          No it's not! We can now point to recent de-criminalizations as examples of no-blood-in-the-streets. This is good stuff. Like LTC, this **** needs to fall one card at a time.
                          Yup, some things are great to happen first in the anti-strongholds first like striking down of handgun bans, no-issue or may-issue policies and the other more egregious infringements of our rights. Its a lot easier to strike down more obviously unconstitutional laws first.

                          Other things we want to happen first in relatively gun friendly places like this in Michigan, constitutional carry elsewhere etc. Normalization is much easier there than here.
                          Originally posted by wildhawker
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                          • #14
                            joefreas
                            • Jan 2010
                            • 2421

                            Wouldn't it just take a good lawsuit here? A professional hunter or firearms testing/manufacturer to argue that the loud firearm is causing hearing damage. The law preventing the use of a suppressor wiould be causing the physical harm, ect.
                            If you think nobody cares if you're alive, try missing a couple of payments.

                            Originally posted by XDRoX
                            Walking around with a banana in a holster won't do anything but get you laughed at.
                            "A true patriot would repeal the patriot act"
                            Ron Paul

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                            • #15
                              mag360
                              Calguns Addict
                              • Jun 2009
                              • 5198

                              just have a pro gun dem carry the bill and push the noise pollution and hearing issue and bam...suppressors in calif.
                              just happy to be here. I like talking about better ways to protect ourselves.

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