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  • ipser
    Senior Member
    • Jul 2009
    • 558

    Luring Gun Makers to Free States

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    ccmc
    Senior Member
    • May 2011
    • 1797

    Thanks for posting that. That's an excellent idea. Interestingly most of the foreign firearms manufacturers that have set up shop in the US have done so in the free states. The only exception I can think of is Beretta which is in MD. Otherwise Sig's in NH, Glock and HK are in GA and FN's in VA. CT is actually a quasi-free state as they are pretty much shall issue in most cases. Interesting about that hypocrite Schumer lobbying to keep Remington in NY.

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      vonderplatz
      Senior Member
      • Jul 2011
      • 1249

      Originally posted by ccmc
      Thanks for posting that. That's an excellent idea. Interestingly most of the foreign firearms manufacturers that have set up shop in the US have done so in the free states. The only exception I can think of is Beretta which is in MD. Otherwise Sig's in NH, Glock and HK are in GA and FN's in VA. CT is actually a quasi-free state as they are pretty much shall issue in most cases. Interesting about that hypocrite Schumer lobbying to keep Remington in NY.
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      • #4
        monk
        Veteran Member
        • Jul 2011
        • 4454

        LOL awesome. I expect people to argue that manufacturing and enjoying guns are two different things and that gun owners are punishing hardworking people and bla bla bla.


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        • #5
          1BigPea
          Senior Member
          • Jun 2008
          • 1102

          Originally posted by ccmc
          Thanks for posting that. That's an excellent idea. Interestingly most of the foreign firearms manufacturers that have set up shop in the US have done so in the free states. The only exception I can think of is Beretta which is in MD. Otherwise Sig's in NH, Glock and HK are in GA and FN's in VA. CT is actually a quasi-free state as they are pretty much shall issue in most cases. Interesting about that hypocrite Schumer lobbying to keep Remington in NY.
          Also to add to the list, Springfield Armory is located in Geneseo, Illinois.
          Originally Posted by Wherryj
          I am a physician. I am held to being "the expert" in medicine. I can't fall back on feigned ignorance and the statement that the patient should have known better than I. When an officer "can't be expected to know the entire penal code", but a citizen is held to "ignorance is no excuse", this is equivalent to ME being able to sue my patient for my own malpractice-after all, the patient should have known better, right?

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            Maestro Pistolero
            Veteran Member
            • Apr 2009
            • 3897

            I love that makers like Colt, Springfield Armory, Rock River Arms, and many others are behind enemy lines. The tax revenue on their business in those states may act as a limit on those states infringement (to a point) In other words, if they go TOO far, driving them out of business, those states lose a pile of money.
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              triplestack3
              Senior Member
              • Feb 2011
              • 1286

              Originally posted by 1BigPea
              Also to add to the list, Springfield Armory is located in Geneseo, Illinois.
              +Kimber is in Yonkers, NY

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              • #8
                NorCal Mtn Flyer
                Member
                • Aug 2010
                • 135

                Originally posted by Maestro Pistolero
                I love that makers like Colt, Springfield Armory, Rock River Arms, and many others are behind enemy lines. The tax revenue on their business in those states may act as a limit on those states infringement (to a point) In other words, if they go TOO far, driving them out of business, those states lose a pile of money.
                But no doubt if any of those manufacturers decided to move their facilities to free states, they would get slapped by an NLRB injunction, ala BOEING! Heaven forbid that a manufacturer of anything be allowed to make decisions about where to best base their operation at.

                But it is truly ironic that strong antis in Congress/Senate are supporting the manufacture of the very products they would outlaw at the soonest opportunity!

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                • #9
                  CAL.BAR
                  CGSSA OC Chapter Leader
                  • Nov 2007
                  • 5632

                  Another thing to consider is that there are fewer people in "free states". CA, for example, has more population than that of all of the plains states put together. Can't make a living on the 900,000 people in MT. (lol)

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                  • #10
                    pointedstick
                    Senior Member
                    • May 2009
                    • 566

                    Originally posted by NorCal Mtn Flyer
                    But no doubt if any of those manufacturers decided to move their facilities to free states, they would get slapped by an NLRB injunction, ala BOEING! Heaven forbid that a manufacturer of anything be allowed to make decisions about where to best base their operation at.

                    But it is truly ironic that strong antis in Congress/Senate are supporting the manufacture of the very products they would outlaw at the soonest opportunity!
                    NLRB only applies to unions, right? This is talking out of my ***, but I can't imagine that many gun companies have unionized workforces.

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                    • #11
                      SantaCabinetguy
                      I need a LIFE!!
                      • Feb 2011
                      • 15137

                      Originally posted by ccmc
                      Interesting about that hypocrite Schumer lobbying to keep Remington in NY.
                      Unfortunately there's nothing "interesting" about it. It's the norm and what I would expect from an elected official from NY.
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                      • #12
                        Wherryj
                        I need a LIFE!!
                        • Mar 2010
                        • 11085

                        Originally posted by 1BigPea
                        Also to add to the list, Springfield Armory is located in Geneseo, Illinois.
                        The others were examples of foreign manufacturers setting up in the US, but if you want to add to the list of domestic manufacturers behind enemy lines, you can add Franklin Armory here in the south bay region of the People's Socialist Republik of Kalifornia.
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                        • #13
                          yellowfin
                          Calguns Addict
                          • Nov 2007
                          • 8371

                          Originally posted by pointedstick
                          NLRB only applies to unions, right? This is talking out of my ***, but I can't imagine that many gun companies have unionized workforces.
                          I know Remington's is, and it's virtually required in NY and MA, the latter of which has Smith & Wesson. Bushmaster was in Maine and they were unionized, so much to the point that BM went under and was liquidated and moved out after being bought by Remington. I would actually expect that Colt probably is unionized too. It's REALLY, REALLY disgusting that unions are in general supporters of the anti gun political complex yet gun companies can't kick them out.
                          Last edited by yellowfin; 08-10-2011, 8:21 PM.
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                          In Pennsylvania Your permit to carry concealed is called a License to carry fire arms. Other states call it a CCW. In New Jersey it's called a crime.
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                          • #14
                            Scott Connors
                            Senior Member
                            • Aug 2006
                            • 879

                            Originally posted by ccmc
                            Thanks for posting that. That's an excellent idea. Interestingly most of the foreign firearms manufacturers that have set up shop in the US have done so in the free states. The only exception I can think of is Beretta which is in MD. Otherwise Sig's in NH, Glock and HK are in GA and FN's in VA. CT is actually a quasi-free state as they are pretty much shall issue in most cases. Interesting about that hypocrite Schumer lobbying to keep Remington in NY.
                            What's really funny is that factory in Maine that Remington moved to NY was Bushmaster's old plant, which manufactured "certain banned semiautomatic rifles"! His hypocrisy really knows no limit. I can easily picture him as one of the corrupt politicians in the eighth circle of Dante's Hell, only instead of being forced to wear monk-like robes of lead he's forced to haul enough .50 cal ammo to supply the siege of Khe Sanh.
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