LUCC in a CamelBak

[scarville]

I just run small key ring circles through the metal zipper hole.

That's a good idea.

[CitaDeL]

I just run small key ring circles through the metal zipper hole.

Are the key rings welded so that they cannot be removed without tools?

If they arent, Id say that it wasnt actually locked or secure.

[Glock22Fan]

Are the key rings welded so that they cannot be removed without tools?

If they arent, Id say that it wasnt actually locked or secure.

Superglue!

[WDE91]

I think the idea of getting 2 small luggage locks and locking them together is the cheapest and easiest solution

[MountainMike]

In modifying my CamelBak to serve as a locked container I discovered a problem I was not expecting. I used another bag for ease of filming.

As it stands I am unsure as to if I want to heavily modify the CamelBak or just not use it in this fashion.

[Librarian]

In modifying my CamelBak to serve as a locked container I discovered a problem I was not expecting. I used another bag for ease of filming.

As it stands I am unsure as to if I want to heavily modify the CamelBak or just not use it in this fashion.

Yes, that's a problem.

Perhaps folks who manufacture gun cases have already thought of such things and designed their products to accommodate.

I'm all for frugality; re-purposing something one already owns makes financial sense, sometimes.

Doesn't look like this is one of those happy moments.

[$P-Ritch$]

I ask myself why are there threads like these? I see by your screen name you must love the outdoors, ride mountain bikes etc. If you do all that locking crap etc I guess go for it, if you plan on camping somewhere but above all. If you want something to defend your life on, please just go buy a 6"+ ka bar or some sort of good quality knife and strap that sucker on your left or right camel bak shoulder strap. A locked up gun will just get you tired and killed. Be practical, also most knives now come with well made sheaths.

I think most threads like these generally address means of transportation for those of us that do not have an enclosed car trunk to lock the firearm in. That could be anyone with a hatchback, truck, motorcycle, bicycle, or even walking to or from a gun store/range/etc.

[CitaDeL]

I ask myself why are there threads like these? I see by your screen name you must love the outdoors, ride mountain bikes etc. If you do all that locking crap etc I guess go for it, if you plan on camping somewhere but above all. If you want something to defend your life on, please just go buy a 6"+ ka bar or some sort of good quality knife and strap that sucker on your left or right camel bak shoulder strap. A locked up gun will just get you tired and killed. Be practical, also most knives now come with well made sheaths.

Have you ever stabbed a mountain lion or a bear? And I dont think that you can create enough distance with a 6" blade.

Im not sure how effective a knife would be.

Then as was stated, this is about mitigating transportation issues- getting from 'A' to 'B' without accidentally violating a law that draws imaginary lines that no one can point to with any certainty that has significant consequences if you do cross that imaginary line.

[Anonymous Coward]

I ask myself why are there threads like these? I see by your screen name you must love the outdoors, ride mountain bikes etc. If you do all that locking crap etc I guess go for it, if you plan on camping somewhere but above all. If you want something to defend your life on, please just go buy a 6"+ ka bar or some sort of good quality knife and strap that sucker on your left or right camel bak shoulder strap. A locked up gun will just get you tired and killed. Be practical, also most knives now come with well made sheaths.

And that is a felony right there. A fixed blade knife in a sheath needs to be carried openly suspended from the belt - shoulder strap is a no go. It doesn't make any sense, but that's what the law says. A folding knife would be OK (depending on local and park laws).

Edited to add:
How do you actually carry an unconcealed fixed blade that does NOT use the 12020.25.c exception? Carry it in a clear sheath? Attach it in some other way to your body or gear?

[Glock22Fan]

And that is a felony right there. A fixed blade knife in a sheath needs to be carried openly suspended from the belt - shoulder strap is a no go. It doesn't make any sense, but that's what the law says. A folding knife would be OK (depending on local and park laws).

Edited to add:
How do you actually carry an unconcealed fixed blade that does NOT use the 12020.25.c exception? Carry it in a clear sheath? Attach it in some other way to your body or gear?

Incorrect. The sheath may be mounted anywhere it is openly visible, such as on a belt. The belt carry is not mandatory, it is an example.

And there is a test case for that piece of law. Someone in period costume had so much stuff on his belt that he strapped his knife to his leg. The D.A. prosecuted him, and he was acquitted. It's on Jim March's Californian Knife Laws page.

[scarville]

In modifying my CamelBak to serve as a locked container I discovered a problem I was not expecting. I used another bag for ease of filming.

What you filmed is a phenomenum some of us engineering geeks are familiar with. It is one of the manifold problems. Thanks for posting it and, hopefully, a few people will learn from it.

[yelohamr]

This what I use, since I quit going to Starbucks.

http://reviews.cabelas.com/8815/227754/bulldog-fanny-pack-conceal-carry-holster-reviews/reviews.htm

It will hold my S&W .40 and 5 mags. If no CCW, it can be locked. With a CCW, there is a quick release to pull and it opens up.

[Flopper]

If you want something to defend your life on, please just go buy a 6"+ ka bar or some sort of good quality knife and strap that sucker on your left or right camel bak shoulder strap. A locked up gun will just get you tired and killed. Be practical, also most knives now come with well made sheaths.

Have you ever stabbed a mountain lion or a bear? And I dont think that you can create enough distance with a 6" blade.

Im not sure how effective a knife would be.

Knives are notoriously problematic at stopping a threat for many reasons, especially if you're untrained in their use. Suggesting their use against a bear or mountain lion is laughable at best (unless maybe if you're a super hero armed with a sword).

If a gun is not an option, pepper spray (or bear spray) or a Taser would be MUCH better solutions than a piddly little 6" knife.

[MountainMike]

I think most threads like these generally address means of transportation for those of us that do not have an enclosed car trunk to lock the firearm in. That could be anyone with a hatchback, truck, motorcycle, bicycle, or even walking to or from a gun store/range/etc.

Precisely. The original idea was to exploit the convenience of using a compartment in a small and versatile backpack for not only bicycle excursions into the great outdoors but also on my road bike around and between towns. My bicycles have taken me all over the state and while LUCC many not be ideal against an emanate threat, it is still my only recourse.

Again, right on the money... my car does not have a trunk which qualifies as a locked container. Naturally I have a pistol case but it is bulky and cumbersome to carry in any concealable fashion.

[Anonymous Coward]

Incorrect. The sheath may be mounted anywhere it is openly visible, such as on a belt. The belt carry is not mandatory, it is an example.

And there is a test case for that piece of law. Someone in period costume had so much stuff on his belt that he strapped his knife to his leg. The D.A. prosecuted him, and he was acquitted. It's on Jim March's Californian Knife Laws page.

Right, there's a case mentioned on Jim March's web site. I'd like to see that case. 25(d) is pretty specific about the suspension from the waist and it does not use the language that is used when examples are listed. It could be that the guy just got lucky with a jury. I would not do this wager with a felony dangling over my head..