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  • socal2310
    Senior Member
    • Nov 2008
    • 808

    SCOTUS Grants cert. for Millender v. Los Angeles

    I just found this in my "in box" and a google site search didn't turn anything up so...


    SCOTUS Grants Review in Firearm Search Warrant Case
    The Fourth Amendment guarantees our right to not be subjected to search and seizure under a "general" search warrant (i.e., a warrant not based on probable cause and not particularly describing the place to be searched and the person or thing to be seized).

    Firearms are generally lawful to possess, and usually may not be seized without probable cause that a specific firearm was used in a crime. On August 24, 2010, the Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals in Millender v. County of Los Angeles, et al. (07-55518), confirmed that a general search warrant requesting the seizure of “all handguns, rifles or shotguns of any caliber, or any firearms capable of firing ammunition...” was unconstitutional when the police who sought the warrant were aware they were actually searching for just one specific firearm.

    The National Rifle Association (NRA) and the California Rifle and Pistol Association Foundation (CRPAF) argued this point in an amicus (friend of the court) brief filed in the Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals on behalf of the Mrs. Millender. A copy of the brief, along with the opinion, other case related briefs, and memorandum analyzing the opinion is posted at http://michellawyers.com/millendervlosangeles.

    Following the Ninth Circuit’s Millender decision, defendant County of Los Angeles sought review by the United States Supreme Court. On June 27, 2011, the Supreme Court agreed to review the case, and to address the question of whether law enforcement is entitled to qualified immunity against a civil rights law suit when a judge has signed off on the warrant – even when the officers seized property (i.e. firearms) unrelated to the case (and the specific firearm) they are investigating. The case will be heard by the Supreme Court next year. NRA and CRPAF will weigh-in again through an amicus brief at that time.

    Far too often police seize entire firearms collections even when most of those firearms are not alleged as part of any criminal offense. In fact, to get to large gun collections local police even resort to "stinging" gun collectors with enticing too-good-to-be-true firearm deals that often involve grey areas of the law, making inadvertent violations of the law common. Some police are politically motivated to inflate statistics of the number of guns seized in order to justify increased funding for their efforts. These seizures often result in damage to the firearms, and inevitably cost their owners expenses and legal fees to get the firearms back.

    The Millender case involved a domestic assault between Mr. Bowen and Mrs. Kelly. Bowen threatened Kelly using a specifically identified sawed-off shotgun. Kelly called the police. Police ran Bowen's record and discovered he was a felon. Police then tracked down an address purported to be Bowen’s residence, and drafted a search warrant that included a request to seize all firearms and ammunition. Police included these general requests despite having a picture of the specific sawed-off shotgun Bowen allegedly used in the assault.

    At 5 a.m. the Los Angeles County Sheriff’s Department SWAT team served the warrant at the address of Bowen’s foster mother, Mrs. Millender (law enforcement knew that this was her residence, not Bowen’s). Police broke in through her front security door and a front window. Bowen was not there, but law enforcement nonetheless seized from Mrs. Millender a 12-gauge “Mossberg” shotgun with a wooden stock that looked nothing like the sawed-off shotgun they were after, along with a box of .45 caliber ammunition.

    Bowen was found the following day hiding under a bed in a motel.

    The District Court held that the police had qualified immunity from the damages sought in the civil rights case because of the supposed validity of the warrant.

    The Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals reversed, holding that the warrant was over-broad, especially given law enforcement’s knowledge of the specific firearm Bowen used, and considering the total lack of any gang related evidence. Due to the extreme degree in which the warrant was unconstitutional, the Court of Appeals held that the officers were not entitled to qualified immunity and could be sued for damages for violating the Millenders’ civil rights.

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  • #2
    bwiese
    I need a LIFE!!
    • Oct 2005
    • 27621

    Your CRPA Foundation at work.

    Bill Wiese
    San Jose, CA

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    • #3
      IGOTDIRT4U
      I need a LIFE!!
      • Oct 2006
      • 10861

      Damn CRPA and NRA does NOTHING for us Californians...
      "Over-sentimentality, over-softness, in fact washiness and mushiness are the great dangers of this age and of this people. Unless we keep the barbarian virtue, gaining the civilized ones will be of little avail." - Theodore Roosevelt

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      • #4
        safewaysecurity
        Calguns Addict
        • Jun 2010
        • 6166

        Would this if ruled in our favor overturn the ruling by the New Mexico SC which was a similar case?
        Originally posted by cudakidd
        I want Blood for Oil. Heck I want Blood for Oil over hand wringing sentiment!
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        • #5
          navyinrwanda
          Senior Member
          • Jan 2007
          • 599

          United States v. Leon, 468 U.S. 897, 920, 923 (1984); Malley v. Briggs, 475 U.S. 335,341,344-45 (1986). The Questions Presented are:
          1. Under these standards, are officers entitled to qualified immunity where they obtained a facially valid warrant to search for firearms, firearm-related materials, and gang-related items in the residence of a gang member and felon who had threatened to kill his girlfriend and fired a sawed-off shotgun at her, and a district attorney approved the application, no factually on point case law prohibited the search, and the alleged overbreadth in the warrant did not expand the scope of the search?
          2. Should the Malley/Leon standards be reconsidered or clarified in light of lower courts' inability to apply them in accordance with their purpose of deterring police misconduct, resulting in imposition of liability on officers for good faith conduct and improper exclusion of evidence in criminal cases?

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          • #6
            socal2310
            Senior Member
            • Nov 2008
            • 808

            Unfortunately, given the track record of SCOTUS over the last few years, I fear you may be right. I suspect this is at least partially due to the "tough on crime" conservatism prevalent in much of the rest of the country and no doubt well represented on the supreme court.

            Ryan
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            • #7
              socal2310
              Senior Member
              • Nov 2008
              • 808

              double post
              Bless, O Lord, this creature beer, which thou hast deigned to produce from the fat of grain: that it may be a salutary remedy to the human race, and grant through the invocation of thy holy name; that, whoever shall drink it, may gain health in body and peace in soul. Through Christ our Lord. Amen

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              • #8
                Anchors
                Calguns Addict
                • Apr 2010
                • 5940

                This is still a good thing.
                How many stories have we read of a guy that had his house raided on a "whatever warrant" and had ALL firearms seized even if nothing else was found.

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                • #9
                  Chatterbox
                  Senior Member
                  • Apr 2009
                  • 1243

                  Originally posted by socal2310
                  Unfortunately, given the track record of SCOTUS over the last few years, I fear you may be right. I suspect this is at least partially due to the "tough on crime" conservatism prevalent in much of the rest of the country and no doubt well represented on the supreme court.

                  Ryan
                  Yes, the Roberts has really not been 4th Amendment friendly at all.
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                  • #10
                    yellowfin
                    Calguns Addict
                    • Nov 2007
                    • 8371

                    The threshold is pretty high to overturn on this when the question is answered generally correctly, right?
                    "You can't stop insane people from doing insane things with insane laws. That's insane!" -- Penn Jillette
                    Originally posted by indiandave
                    In Pennsylvania Your permit to carry concealed is called a License to carry fire arms. Other states call it a CCW. In New Jersey it's called a crime.
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                    • #11
                      bwiese
                      I need a LIFE!!
                      • Oct 2005
                      • 27621

                      Remember this is not just an ordinary 4th case, this involves fundamental RKBA rights of the 'nonparticipants' (Mrs. Millender has a Heller-affirmed right to firearms - especially in the home - and LAPD raided it 'for good measure' even though they knew it wasn't Bowen's residence).

                      Bill Wiese
                      San Jose, CA

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                      • #12
                        anthonyca
                        Calguns Addict
                        • May 2008
                        • 6316

                        Amendment IV
                        The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.

                        These three documents, known collectively as the Charters of Freedom, have secured the rights of the American people for more than two and a quarter centuries and are considered instrumental to the founding and philosophy of the United States. Declaration of Independence Learn More The Declaration of Independence expresses the ideals on which the United States was founded and the reasons for separation from Great Britain.


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                        Originally posted by Wherryj
                        I am a physician. I am held to being "the expert" in medicine. I can't fall back on feigned ignorance and the statement that the patient should have known better than I. When an officer "can't be expected to know the entire penal code", but a citizen is held to "ignorance is no excuse", this is equivalent to ME being able to sue my patient for my own malpractice-after all, the patient should have known better, right?

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                        • #13
                          Lulfas
                          Senior Member
                          • Apr 2010
                          • 836

                          Originally posted by bwiese
                          Remember this is not just an ordinary 4th case, this involves fundamental RKBA rights of the 'nonparticipants' (Mrs. Millender has a Heller-affirmed right to firearms - especially in the home - and LAPD raided it 'for good measure' even though they knew it wasn't Bowen's residence).
                          Is the part about them knowing it wasn't his house in another story? From the article quoted:

                          The Millender case involved a domestic assault between Mr. Bowen and Mrs. Kelly. Bowen threatened Kelly using a specifically identified sawed-off shotgun. Kelly called the police. Police ran Bowen's record and discovered he was a felon. Police then tracked down an address purported to be Bowen’s residence, and drafted a search warrant that included a request to seize all firearms and ammunition. Police included these general requests despite having a picture of the specific sawed-off shotgun Bowen allegedly used in the assault.
                          Would seem to be saying that they went to where he was believed to live and seized the guns. Since he was a felon, wouldn't all guns at the house he has access to be evidence to the crime of providing access to a felon/possessing a gun as a felon?
                          Anti-intellectualism has been a constant thread winding its way through our political and cultural life, nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that 'my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge.' Isaac Asimov

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                          • #14
                            wildhawker
                            I need a LIFE!!
                            • Nov 2008
                            • 14150

                            I agree with Navy's assessment.

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                            • #15
                              77bawls
                              Senior Member
                              • Jan 2010
                              • 1457

                              Due to the extreme degree in which the warrant was unconstitutional, the Court of Appeals held that the officers were not entitled to qualified immunity and could be sued for damages for violating the Millenders’ civil rights.
                              Great now Kalifornia judges are signing unconstitutional warrants.
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