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  • Wernher von Browning
    Calguns Addict
    • Mar 2011
    • 9826

    Another one for NRA's Armed Citizen page

    From Lake Forest, CA:



    "Mom shot dog that attacked her daughter"


    Another example of:
    • a gun being used as a legitimate, useful tool
    • when seconds count, the police are only minutes away
    • why citizens need to be able to carry outside the home. The dog doesn't know from property lines and such an attack could happen anywhere.
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    morfeeis
    Calguns Addict
    • Apr 2010
    • 7605

    She home schools 6 kids = shes a nut case.....

    all kidding aside, no one was in immediate danger, everyone was already safe inside the home. Why not just call the police and let them take care of it? sorry in this case i dont think she "HAD" to fire a shot.

    Things i need to know
    did she know the dog?
    had there been run in's with the dog in the past?
    has there been any problems wih the owner in the past?
    ΜΟΛΩΝ ΛΑΒΕ
    Originally posted by Ayn Rand
    You seek escape from pain. We seek the achievement of happiness. You exist for the sake of avoiding punishment. We exist for the sake of earning rewards. Threats will not make us function; fear is not our incentive. It is not death we wish to avoid, but life that we wish to live.

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    • #3
      rjf
      Senior Member
      • Oct 2006
      • 649

      Oh Oh and independant thinking woman not relying on the government to to save her. Good shoot. Dog owner needs to pay medical and provide a box of ammo.

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      • #4
        stitchnicklas
        Calguns Addict
        • Feb 2010
        • 7091

        Originally posted by morfeeis
        She home schools 6 kids = shes a nut case.....

        all kidding aside, no one was in immediate danger, everyone was already safe inside the home. Why not just call the police and let them take care of it? sorry in this case i dont think she "HAD" to fire a shot.

        Things i need to know
        did she know the dog?
        had there been run in's with the dog in the past?
        has there been any problems with the owner in the past?
        your nra card is hereby revoked,please mail any guns owned to mayor bloomberg asap..........

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        • #5
          Fate
          Calguns Addict
          • Apr 2006
          • 9545

          Honestly, I'm all for putting down wild dogs. However, this is a BAD shoot. Mom needed to come to her kid's aid WITH the gun, not go back out after it when all were safe.
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          , in a letter to his nephew Peter Carr dated August 19, 1785

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          • #6
            Which Way Out
            Senior Member
            • Feb 2011
            • 1330

            Never mess with a Woman's kids !!! Never.

            IMO she did what any parent would of done years ago. (Back in the good old days). Yes her kids were safe and she did not have to open the door. But I like her argument that other kids are not far away. If that dog had seen anything move in a nearby yard then it most surely would have attacked it.
            Just imagine she's in the house and someone else happens down the street to see what all the fuss and noise is about. The dog goes after the person with the same results. Now this lady is ready to run out with a gun and drop the dog with the victim very close by.
            I must say good kill.
            On the other hand if it were a person outside the door that had done anything such as hurt the kids and could not get into the house, then opening the door and shooting would be a bad Kill. Even though the person probably deserved it.

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            • #7
              DaveInOroValley
              CGN/CGSSA Contributor
              CGN Contributor
              • Jan 2010
              • 8967

              Personally knowing the dog had bit someone I would want to be sure to make the animal available for rabies testing. Better a dead healthy dog that bit someone vs. making anyone go through the rabies treatment. I say good shoot and let animal control test for rabies.
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              • #8
                Wernher von Browning
                Calguns Addict
                • Mar 2011
                • 9826

                Originally posted by rjf
                Oh Oh and independant thinking woman not relying on the government to to save her. Good shoot. Dog owner needs to pay medical and provide a box of ammo.
                That's how I see it.

                She didn't need to shoot. But she did everybody a favor. (And infringed on police union's turf -- "WE run the protection rackets around here! If everybody just helped themselves, we'd be outta jobs!").

                This shoot would be different if it were a human and she came out of the house just to shoot him/her/it. But as a dog, good shoot. Good shooting too.
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                • #9
                  Maestro Pistolero
                  Veteran Member
                  • Apr 2009
                  • 3897

                  To all nay sayers: that dog was a potential killer. This women did the right thing for her neighbors.

                  She had EVERY reason to believe that dog would injure or kill the next child it encountered. What is wrong with some people here? Think, then post.
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                  • #10
                    Rich Keagy
                    Junior Member
                    • Mar 2010
                    • 29

                    I agree with WvB and rjf.
                    Mom should home school and home carry too!
                    A gun on the hip would keep the students' attention.

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                    • #11
                      mag360
                      Calguns Addict
                      • Jun 2009
                      • 5198

                      Originally posted by morfeeis
                      She home schools 6 kids = shes a nut case.....

                      all kidding aside, no one was in immediate danger, everyone was already safe inside the home. Why not just call the police and let them take care of it? sorry in this case i dont think she "HAD" to fire a shot.

                      Things i need to know
                      did she know the dog?
                      had there been run in's with the dog in the past?
                      has there been any problems wih the owner in the past?
                      she was worried about other kids in the neighborhood. Sounds good to me.
                      just happy to be here. I like talking about better ways to protect ourselves.

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                      • #12
                        Wernher von Browning
                        Calguns Addict
                        • Mar 2011
                        • 9826

                        Apparently this is an old story. The OC Register video does not make that clear. But here's an ancient story.





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                        • #13
                          1859sharps
                          Senior Member
                          • Jun 2008
                          • 2261

                          Originally posted by Maestro Pistolero
                          She had EVERY reason to believe that dog would injure or kill the next child it encountered. What is wrong with some people here? Think, then post.
                          Exactly.

                          What someone else would have done. what someone with training and experience dealing with dogs would done. All irrelevant. what is relevant is was her conclusion and actions based on that conclusion in that moment reasonable.

                          While I may not have chosen the same actions she did, I think she was being reasonable. particularly if she fired one shot. which seems to be the case. did I missing anything indicating otherwise? single shot to me indicates someone who didn't panic or became irrational. it would support the indication she assessed and concluded a greater threat and took controlled and reasonable action.

                          anyone of us could be in a position to pull the trigger someday. we all hope that when that day comes others will give us the benefit of the doubt. creating that "culture" starts right here with incidents like this.

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                          • #14
                            meaty-btz
                            Calguns Addict
                            • Sep 2010
                            • 8980

                            Never mess with Momma Bear. Good shoot.
                            ...but their exists also in the human heart a depraved taste for equality, which impels the weak to attempt to lower the powerful to their own level, and reduces men to prefer equality in slavery to inequality with freedom.

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                            • #15
                              Aldemar
                              On Everyone's Ignore List
                              CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                              • Dec 2007
                              • 4707

                              Originally posted by daveinwoodland
                              Personally knowing the dog had bit someone I would want to be sure to make the animal available for rabies testing. Better a dead healthy dog that bit someone vs. making anyone go through the rabies treatment. I say good shoot and let animal control test for rabies.
                              Beat me to it.
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