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  • #16
    dantodd
    Calguns Addict
    • Aug 2009
    • 9360

    Originally posted by Loyaltyisgolden
    If I was a lifetime ban, wouldnt it show in the doj system?
    Yes it would show in the system they use when you send in a PFEC. Since your check was via phone to a DoJ staffer no one knows what systems they checked. It is quite QUITE!! common for DoJ or BATF to give only information that is controlled by their jurisdiction and not look up additional info unless they specifically say they did, such as with the PFEC.
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    • #17
      ElvenSoul
      I need a LIFE!!
      • Apr 2008
      • 17431

      Get it in Writing!
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      • #18
        Loyaltyisgolden
        Junior Member
        • Jun 2011
        • 9

        I called when I was denied the first time an they pulled up my info about being in mental hospital nut now tgey pull nothing up.

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        • #19
          Loyaltyisgolden
          Junior Member
          • Jun 2011
          • 9

          I mispelled but and they. Sorry. And thank you for all the help. I would like to fill out that self check but 120 days is a little extreme

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          • #20
            anthonyca
            Calguns Addict
            • May 2008
            • 6316

            Originally posted by Loyaltyisgolden
            I mispelled but and they. Sorry. And thank you for all the help. I would like to fill out that self check but 120 days is a little extreme
            It's a lot better than 10 years in federal prison if your still prohibited. To f with this and just fill out the damn PFEC!

            Can I ask how you "had your rights restored"? This is not adding up.
            https://www.facebook.com/pages/Union...70812799700206

            Originally posted by Wherryj
            I am a physician. I am held to being "the expert" in medicine. I can't fall back on feigned ignorance and the statement that the patient should have known better than I. When an officer "can't be expected to know the entire penal code", but a citizen is held to "ignorance is no excuse", this is equivalent to ME being able to sue my patient for my own malpractice-after all, the patient should have known better, right?

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            • #21
              bigcalidave
              CGN/CGSSA Contributor - Lifetime
              CGN Contributor - Lifetime
              • Jan 2009
              • 4489

              You request it in court, a full dismissal, felony reduced to mis-d then dropped. It's possible, costs a lot of money usually. OP I think you should do the PFEC and deal with it, to be sure. Especially if you don't have a lawyer to ask. If you got your rights restored, I assume you HAVE a lawyer, and they can probably advise you
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              • #22
                blazeaglory
                Calguns Addict
                • May 2011
                • 6370

                Originally posted by bigcalidave
                You request it in court, a full dismissal, felony reduced to mis-d then dropped. It's possible, costs a lot of money usually. OP I think you should do the PFEC and deal with it, to be sure. Especially if you don't have a lawyer to ask. If you got your rights restored, I assume you HAVE a lawyer, and they can probably advise you
                it doesnt cost anything if you know how to file a motion.

                file pc17b to reduce to a misdemeanor

                file pc1203.4 to expunge a felony

                oh and make sure you are off of probation and have paid all your fines and have otherwise been a good little angel
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                • #23
                  Cokebottle
                  Señor Member
                  CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                  • Oct 2009
                  • 32373

                  Originally posted by anthonyca
                  Originally posted by Loyaltyisgolden
                  I mispelled but and they. Sorry. And thank you for all the help. I would like to fill out that self check but 120 days is a little extreme
                  It's a lot better than 10 years in federal prison if your still prohibited. To f with this and just fill out the damn PFEC!
                  This. Just fill out the freaking form and wait. You've waited perhaps 10 years, another couple of months is not going to kill you to be 100% sure that you are not prohibited.

                  Let me repeat....


                  IF the DOJ rep was not accurate and you are still prohibited on the state or federal level, attempting to purchase a firearm can get you into a LOT of trouble.
                  Can I ask how you "had your rights restored"? This is not adding up.
                  Sounds like it may have been a 5 or 10-year 5150-related (without the 5250) prohibition.
                  - Rich

                  Originally posted by dantodd
                  A just government will not be overthrown by force or violence because the people have no incentive to overthrow a just government. If a small minority of people attempt such an insurrection to grab power and enslave the people, the RKBA of the whole is our insurance against their success.

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                  • #24
                    dirtyJ
                    Senior Member
                    • Oct 2008
                    • 1002

                    PFEC is not all inclusive. We've had two instances of PFEC's coming back clean and the individual still getting denied due to things in their background 30+ years ago. It's a very good indicator, but not 100%.
                    My posts are my own opinion and reflect no official positions of anyone other than myself.

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                    • #25
                      anthonyca
                      Calguns Addict
                      • May 2008
                      • 6316

                      Originally posted by dirtyJ
                      PFEC is not all inclusive. We've had two instances of PFEC's coming back clean and the individual still getting denied due to things in their background 30+ years ago. It's a very good indicator, but not 100%.
                      This is interesting. Can you post more information?
                      https://www.facebook.com/pages/Union...70812799700206

                      Originally posted by Wherryj
                      I am a physician. I am held to being "the expert" in medicine. I can't fall back on feigned ignorance and the statement that the patient should have known better than I. When an officer "can't be expected to know the entire penal code", but a citizen is held to "ignorance is no excuse", this is equivalent to ME being able to sue my patient for my own malpractice-after all, the patient should have known better, right?

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