AB144 Open carry month. Starts tomorrow.

[hgreen]

Oak, Just my opinion but, when you have someone asking for money, hgreen, wouldn't it be wise to at very least give the name of the lawyer? CGF as far as i can see has never held back intel to its donors that would benefit gun owners. (except info not for the ears of the general public for reasons of not letting the enemy get a heads up of course)

You are more than welcome to ask the individuals involved with the legal action yourself.

I have nothing more to do with it than posting the link to let people know what's going on and donating a few dollars.

Not sure why you think its my case, my name is not on the website.

[KylaGWolf]

Can any of you unloaded open carry absolutists explain to me why you carry unloaded?

The right to keep and bear arms is the right to bear functional firearms.

I know the answer to my question. Everyone is making a strategic decision but then folks get bent out of shape and try to call those of us thinking about the issue in a broader form with more understanding of the battlefield as somehow less patriotic.

AB-144 is constitutional. Sorry folks. States can choose the manner in which you carry and California has chosen concealed while unconstitutionally withholding permits at the LEA level.

You can't convince Kennedy that a state can't ban LOC while allowing shall issue concealed carry or vice-versa.

This is from someone who has documented proof of LOCing this past weekend. However, I was in TN where it causes no problems...

-Gene

Gene I know why I do but then again we all know I am not your typical open carrier and even I had the smarts to stand down even before Calguns asked a while back. And in all honesty as much as I would love to open carry every chance I get I also know that right now it would not be wise for me to do so since there are at least two laws that could make it nearly impossible for me to even get my gun out of my house to go to the range.

And while I would love to be able to choose between LOC and CCW depending on which situation is right for that outing and what my physical condition is that day. I doubt we shall ever be as lucky as some in that respect. Given that I want CCW if I can't have both.

For those that want to do the so called poke the bear in the nose routine know this that bear WILL bite back and hard and that bite will affect a whole lot more than just you. And while I am all for open carry quite frankly I don't want to lose what little bit of rights I have because someone has decided to thumb their nose at those that have a good idea of what is going on.

[5thgen4runner]

This states codes and regulations and it's military Aka leo's that enforce them is nauseating

[hoffmang]

Yeah can you give us a recap? I just saw the "stats"

Proof that I LOC:



-Gene

[Falconis]

Ever try concealing that thing?

[wildhawker]

Ever try concealing that thing?

That's what she said.

[oaklander]

You still have to have some room for the HUGE balls!!!

(CANNON BALLS - you perverts!)



Back on topic: the GENERAL RULE IS THIS:

In the United States, it's perfectly fine to open carry in those portions of the country that have a lot of banjos. Not sure why this is - but it's true out here too. Just remember, "if there's a lot of banjos around, open carry is OK."

Just a general rule of thumb. . .

Ever try concealing that thing?

[tenpercentfirearms]

CaptainSlav, I've been open carrying since 1988. I was never stopped and checked by any LEO. Until last year, after the uproar over the mass UOC gatherings. Up until then, no one noticed.

If you want to UOC, go ahead, but be prepared for the consequences.
As for being a "new poster", BS. Maybe with that name.

If you are as uninformed as you appear to be, go ahead and do what you want, while you are in jail, the rest of us won't have to read your silly a** posts.

This sums up the open carry movement for me. Responsible citizens have been open carrying as a means of protection for quite some time. It was never an issue.

Some people are open carrying in large groups for no reason other than "they can". And that is where we got AB144.

[yelohamr]

You still have to have some room for the HUGE balls!!!

(CANNON BALLS - you perverts!)



Back on topic: the GENERAL RULE IS THIS:

In the United States, it's perfectly fine to open carry in those portions of the country that have a lot of banjos. Not sure why this is - but it's true out here too. Just remember, "if there's a lot of banjos around, open carry is OK."

Just a general rule of thumb. . .

And if you hear the banjos...

[Maestro Pistolero]

If it's been said in this thread, my apologies, I confess to having skimmed the last two pages.

But if we can beat this back one more time there is a chance that LOC could be protected down the line, which, needless to say, is much more meaningful than UOC.

It is MUCH harder and expensive to strike a law after the fact than to prevent it's passing in the first place.

If there is a chance to prevent it's passing, IT WILL BE MADE MORE DIFFICULT IN AN ENVIRONMENT THAT RUFFLES FEATHERS In SACRAMENTO, i.e. with UOC demonstrations.

It would be smarter to play on their fear by pointing out that banning UOC will lead to shall-issue CCW.

When you're stalking prey, you don't start off by marching loudly into the forest. Lay low for a little while longer, I think that's all we're suggesting here.

[sharpie613]

Old bull and the young bull.

[stix213]

It would be smarter to play on their fear by pointing out that banning UOC will lead to shall-issue CCW.

I'm considering using a bit of reverse psychology here by writing my representatives in support of AB144, and citing this very thing. Something like "Please support Concealed Weapons Permits for all, support AB144"

I'm betting that will be a more persuasive argument with Mark Leno then asking him to vote no so I can occasionally open carry.

[Ctwo]

After reading all of the comments in this thread and carefully considering everyone's position, perspective, and point of view, all I have to say is,

Bahahaha bahahaha...

[SpoonKiller]

The way to get people on board is not by scaring or shocking them to our point of view but by showing people on the fence that OCers are your friends and neighbors. How bout open carrying bananas in your holsters, make a mockery of the event to reflect the mockery that is taking place in the Capitol. That would get people talking and would make you more approachable and then you can get your message accross to "regular" folks. Show up with guns and all you're doing is reinforcing the crazy gun nut caricature that the antis push out.

[dantodd]

A big part of being in the Trenches in any battle is knowing when to keep your fool head down.