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  • #16
    tombinghamthegreat
    Veteran Member
    • May 2007
    • 2785

    Originally posted by Librarian
    The first version of the Federal GFSZ was struck down as unconstitutional by US vs Lopez; Congress then repassed a slightly different wording, invoking the Interstate Commerce Clause, and the current version has not yet been challenged.

    http://wiki.calgunsfoundation.org/in...e_School_Zones
    Is there any case law where the current federal GFZ has even been enforced? Also in a post McDonald/Lopez court system would this be upheld?
    "Legitimate use of violence can only be that which is required in self-defense." Ron Paul
    "The issue today is the same as it has been throughout all history, whether man shall be allowed to govern himself or be ruled by a small elite." - Thomas Jefferson
    Originally posted by forumguy
    The same way they enforce all the rest of the BS laws. Only criminals are exempt, while the honest obey.
    Originally posted by bwiese
    Sometimes I think the function of Calguns is half to refute bad info from gunshops and half to refute bad info from DOJ.

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    • #17
      repubconserv
      Veteran Member
      • Dec 2010
      • 3056

      So. I was reading this thread and another... and a new question.
      If I was driving through a GFSZ with a cable LOCKED shotgun



      And the LOCKED shotgun has the barrel removed (note: there is no locked container in this scenario), is this illegal? Or does the gun HAVE to be in a locked container?

      Even further, if my scenario is legal, does the barrel even have to be removed.. or is a lock simply enough?

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      • #18
        Librarian
        Admin and Poltergeist
        CGN Contributor - Lifetime
        • Oct 2005
        • 44630

        Originally posted by repubconserv
        So. I was reading this thread and another... and a new question.
        If I was driving through a GFSZ with a cable LOCKED shotgun



        And the LOCKED shotgun has the barrel removed (note: there is no locked container in this scenario), is this illegal? Or does the gun HAVE to be in a locked container?

        Even further, if my scenario is legal, does the barrel even have to be removed.. or is a lock simply enough?
        Federal GFSZ says long guns in locked case or locking gun rack - the lock on the gun itself satisfies no requirement of law. No point in removing the barrel - that satisfies no requirement of law, either.
        ARCHIVED Calguns Foundation Wiki here: http://web.archive.org/web/201908310...itle=Main_Page

        Frozen in 2015, it is falling out of date and I can no longer edit the content. But much of it is still good!

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        • #19
          repubconserv
          Veteran Member
          • Dec 2010
          • 3056

          Originally posted by Librarian
          Federal GFSZ says long guns in locked case or locking gun rack - the lock on the gun itself satisfies no requirement of law. No point in removing the barrel - that satisfies no requirement of law, either.
          Thanks much!

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          • #20
            Kala
            Member
            • Oct 2010
            • 133

            Correct me if I'm wrong, but when you disassemble the firearm, it's not a firearm anymore, but rather firearm parts and therefore exempt right?

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            • #21
              repubconserv
              Veteran Member
              • Dec 2010
              • 3056

              Originally posted by Kala
              Correct me if I'm wrong, but when you disassemble the firearm, it's not a firearm anymore, but rather firearm parts and therefore exempt right?
              according to librarians post (and other things I have seen) I think everything except the receiver is not considered a gun when disassembled... so I think even if the gun was totally disassembled, to be in compliance with the law, the receiver needs to be locked up... I think

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              • #22
                Librarian
                Admin and Poltergeist
                CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                • Oct 2005
                • 44630

                Originally posted by Kala
                Correct me if I'm wrong, but when you disassemble the firearm, it's not a firearm anymore, but rather firearm parts and therefore exempt right?
                Not correct.

                The 'firearm' is, generally speaking, the part with the serial number, most often the receiver. That's the piece that must be transferred through a FFL.

                Unless you chop that part into unusable and un-reassemblable fragments, it's still a firearm.
                ARCHIVED Calguns Foundation Wiki here: http://web.archive.org/web/201908310...itle=Main_Page

                Frozen in 2015, it is falling out of date and I can no longer edit the content. But much of it is still good!

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