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  • #31
    11C ABN
    Member
    • Mar 2007
    • 117

    My quick thought.

    I think that Mexico has a legit claim, but not against the manufactures and/or vendors. I would state it has a reasonable claim against the sovereign government of the United States.

    The United States Of America allowed its agents (ATF - Solicitor General and its agents - INS Specifically its agents /Border Patrol - FBI - CIA- Homeland security and its agents) For knowingly and willfully assisting known terrorist to purchase items strictly forbidden to there country and assist in logistics for transporting and selling at a profit illegal arms & ammunition across a known international borders.

    Said items/weapons only intended use by purchasers (terrorist) to be used to disrupt the sovereign government of Mexico and inflict terror on its citizens and to cause irreparable harm to it agents / military.

    I would also state that this case will be submitted And tried before the Haig and will lead to charges that will be enforceable against agents of the United States.

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    • #32
      taperxz
      I need a LIFE!!
      • Feb 2010
      • 19395

      Originally posted by 11C ABN
      My quick thought.

      I think that Mexico has a legit claim, but not against the manufactures and/or vendors. I would state it has a reasonable claim against the sovereign government of the United States.

      The United States Of America allowed its agents (ATF - Solicitor General and its agents - INS Specifically its agents /Border Patrol - FBI - CIA- Homeland security and its agents) For knowingly and willfully assisting known terrorist to purchase items strictly forbidden to there country and assist in logistics for transporting and selling at a profit illegal arms & ammunition across a known international borders.

      Said items/weapons only intended use by purchasers (terrorist) to be used to disrupt the sovereign government of Mexico and inflict terror on its citizens and to cause irreparable harm to it agents / military.

      I would also state that this case will be submitted And tried before the Haig and will lead to charges that will be enforceable against agents of the United States.
      BS!!!! If Mexico doesn't like it maybe they should build a fence!! They certainly have enough people willing to work there

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      • #33
        MrBrent
        Member
        • Apr 2009
        • 308

        How about we sue Mexico for the approximate 10-20 million illegals here that the Mexican government encourages to cross into the US?? Lets start with the education costs of their children and medical cost and maybe work our way down to the cost to imprison the criminals that come from Mexico. That ought to balance it out don't you think?

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        • #34
          furyous68
          Senior Member
          • May 2010
          • 1878

          Originally posted by taperxz
          BS!!!! If Mexico doesn't like it maybe they should build a fence!! They certainly have enough people willing to work there
          Why not? Our government should be held accountable for their BS tactics... as well as trying to falsify reports & pushing the blame on the poor gun store owners!
          95,000,000 people die each day in the U.S. from gun violence

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          • #35
            Apocalypsenerd
            Senior Member
            • Nov 2009
            • 942

            How about we collect all the firearms that are confiscated in crimes and air drop them into towns all over Mexico with 100 rounds of ammunition each. Let the citizens of Mexico have a go at the drug cartels?

            Let's give the corrupt Mexican officials something to really complain about.
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            • #36
              11C ABN
              Member
              • Mar 2007
              • 117

              While I agree with most here please inform me were the logic is invalid? Think of it like this:

              Iran decides that it's going to assist and train the peace loving muslims communities through out the United States. The Iranian leadership then tells it Attorney General and/or legal equivalent - State Security - Military Branches that they will assist knowingly subverting international laws and international boarders to arm there brethren.

              Imagine when there caught that they state that while its technically true that they where wrong. They the Iranian Government didn't know that it had gotten so out of hand, so that being said Thanks for informing us we will clean it right up.

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              • #37
                Apocalypsenerd
                Senior Member
                • Nov 2009
                • 942

                The invalidity is that Mexico is already subverting our laws and international laws. Our politicians are choosing to use it to their political advantage rather than do their duty to protect the US, but it is happening.

                The Mexican government is known to be corrupt, and much of it is in league with and on the payroll of the drug cartels. The drug cartels are breaking theirs, ours, and international laws. One of the Mexican governments responses is to use OUR legal system to attack OUR Constitutional liberty.

                Originally posted by 11C ABN
                While I agree with most here please inform me were the logic is invalid? Think of it like this:

                Iran decides that it's going to assist and train the peace loving muslims communities through out the United States. The Iranian leadership then tells it Attorney General and/or legal equivalent - State Security - Military Branches that they will assist knowingly subverting international laws and international boarders to arm there brethren.

                Imagine when there caught that they state that while its technically true that they where wrong. They the Iranian Government didn't know that it had gotten so out of hand, so that being said Thanks for informing us we will clean it right up.
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                • #38
                  Digital_Boy
                  Senior Member
                  • Dec 2008
                  • 910

                  Originally posted by HKMadness
                  This will likely just get thrown out. But yes, i would agree most of the guns probably do come from the us, if not at least a significant portion.
                  If you mean the "90% of firearms seized from cartels" tripe, then you're absolutely wrong. Project Fast and Furious aside, the majority of firearms used by cartels come from corrupt military personnel or others in S. America, and from defectors/deserters from the Mexican military or are stolen from same.

                  Yes, they're greedy SOBs and also try to use straw purchasers to obtain semi-auto AKs and ARs in border states like TX and AZ, but that's a tiny drop in the bucket compared to the select fire rifles and grenades and heavy MG's they're getting from S. America and elsewhere.
                  Originally posted by sierratangofoxtrotunion:

                  Alcohol Tobacco and Firearms should be a convenience store, not a government agency.

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                  • #39
                    safewaysecurity
                    Calguns Addict
                    • Jun 2010
                    • 6166

                    Ever see the show WEEDS? That's pretty much what the Mexican government is like. A bunch of cartel criminals run the place and pretend they are fighting themselves off.
                    Originally posted by cudakidd
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                    • #40
                      SanPedroShooter
                      Calguns Addict
                      • Jan 2010
                      • 9732

                      How about a US Assembly bill thats bans the sale and/ or import of any arms and ammunition to the Mexican "government"? Why do we continue to arm these people? Mexico is far from being a good neighbor. Should the US really be supplying arms to a country that "loses" such a large number of small arms and then turns around and trys to sue US manufacturers?

                      Our freedoms are just another causality in the war on ___ "insert issue here". We've pushed world wide narcotic prohibition so hard, that we have to constantly encourage turd country's with money, guns, training, material etc... When the US says jump, you've got to say "how high"? The perks are worth their trouble, prohibition is big business, almost as big as drug dealing. But is it worth it to us?

                      The Mexican's have a legit grievance with the DOJ/ BATFE, but they seem to want to sue Remington et al instead??
                      Last edited by SanPedroShooter; 05-01-2011, 9:05 AM.

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                      • #41
                        yellowfin
                        Calguns Addict
                        • Nov 2007
                        • 8371

                        Why hasn't anyone ever learned anything at all from prohibition in the 20's and 30's?

                        We KNOW what happens when you ban a recreational substance. We KNOW what kind of violent crime rises up. Why won't anyone fracking LEARN?
                        Government likes the money and power, and the moralists like having something to crusade against. As some speaker I heard last week said, it's all about the Hillaries and the Huckabees.
                        "You can't stop insane people from doing insane things with insane laws. That's insane!" -- Penn Jillette
                        Originally posted by indiandave
                        In Pennsylvania Your permit to carry concealed is called a License to carry fire arms. Other states call it a CCW. In New Jersey it's called a crime.
                        Discretionary Issue is the new Separate but Equal.

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                        • #42
                          twinfin
                          Senior Member
                          • Mar 2009
                          • 1106

                          Is it possible that the Obama administration has encouraged Mexico to take this action in order to create some phoney "crisis" that would then seemingly require our government to "take action" (more gun controll) in responce to the "crisis?"

                          Is this the back door to more gun control that we hear about?

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                          • #43
                            kblack583
                            Senior Member
                            • Apr 2008
                            • 704

                            Originally posted by twinfin
                            Is it possible that the Obama administration has encouraged Mexico to take this action in order to create some phoney "crisis" that would then seemingly require our government to "take action" (more gun controll) in responce to the "crisis?"

                            Is this the back door to more gun control that we hear about?
                            My thoughts exactly. I would bet current administration has some hand in this. After Calderon's speach to congress it seems he is somewhat of a puppet.

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                            • #44
                              HKMadness
                              Calguns Addict
                              • Jan 2011
                              • 5261

                              Originally posted by twinfin
                              Is it possible that the Obama administration has encouraged Mexico to take this action in order to create some phoney "crisis" that would then seemingly require our government to "take action" (more gun controll) in responce to the "crisis?"

                              Is this the back door to more gun control that we hear about?
                              I stay the hell away from conspiracy theories, but this one scares me as obama could be a sneeky **** like this.

                              I was thinking the "under the radar" story was just him trying to get the brady bunch off his *** and not his true intentions. But put it together with this, and i certainly hope u are wrong.
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                              • #45
                                desertdweller
                                Member
                                • Apr 2010
                                • 270

                                Originally posted by ant71992
                                Mexico = lovely country/people/culture

                                Mexican Govt= pieces of ****

                                Im Mexican, love Mexico, love Mexican music, love my Mexican culture and people, but i HATE the Mexican govt. I think i speak for a lot of people when i say i hate the mexican govt.
                                Funny - I can substitute Mexican/Mexico for American/America......
                                Originally posted by Bhobbs
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