California magaine ban? "Military/LEO" mags?

[UberPhLuBB]

Ok, so high capacity magazines were banned at the end of 1999, meaning any magazine manufactured on or after 1/1/2000 is illegal to posess in California.

But what about "Military/Law Enforcement" stamped magazines manufactured before 12/31/99? Obviously they're stamped Mil/LEO because of the federal ban... but can you be prosecuted for a law that no longer exists? Are magazines manufactured between 1994 and 1999 legal to posess in California?

[delloro]

the fed ban expired after the CA ban began. even if fed prosecution is not a problem, how are you going to convince a judge or jury you were able to acquire them? it is MUCH more believable that they were acquired after the ban. now, you could always say you just picked up mag tubes to replace the damaged ones you have, but it still doesn't look good.

not when unmarked tubes are out there.

[UberPhLuBB]

how are you going to convince a judge or jury you were able to acquire them?

That is essentially what I'm asking.

[JAMES77257]

That is essentially what I'm asking.

You were walking down the street and tripped on them.

[BigAL]

If you are not talking about rebuilding mags but instead having bought them NIB, then you had to have violated either federal law, state law, or both.

[JAMES77257]

Tell them " I got'em from ur mom."

[UberPhLuBB]

We're talking felony offense here. Enough with the jokes.

What reason would a person in California have to own "LEO/Mil" marked magazines? I'm not saying I own any. I'm asking.

[SgtBulldog]

We're talking felony offense here. Enough with the jokes.

What reason would a person in California have to own "LEO/Mil" marked magazines? I'm not saying I own any. I'm asking.

They are/were LEO or Mil perhaps?

[Charliegone]

It would be very difficult to prove you got these magazines legally...if I am correct the federal ban went into affect after 94 so that means all high cap mags made during this time (which I think were stamped mil/leo only) are illegal for a civilian to purchase during that time (94 to 04). Since OUR ban went into place around 2000, when the Fed AW law was still in place, those magazines are a no no. Lets just say if you did have them....you would be in big trouble.

[kantstudien]

Wrongo, these magazines were a felony. If you got them after 2000 you were a felon on both the state and federal level until Sept. 13 2004. If you got them prior to Jan 1 2000, then you were legal on the state level but a felon on the federal level. With the federal sunset, you are now neither a felon on the federal or state level, assuming you got them prior to 2000.

[delloro]

the only way I can imagine would be if you owned mil mags prior to the CA ban, and replaced the bodies with LEO marked bodies. you could do it, and if you have all receipts, etc., might be able to get away with it, but there are so many bodies out there that are not marked, there is no good reason IMO to even think about doing it.

[UberPhLuBB]

I know this is all guesswork and heresay but I can't think of a solid enough reason to explain having them either.

No I don't have any Mil/LEO marked prebans, just unmarked. I've seen them in California though, before and after the federal ban and I was wondering how those people rationalize having them. Even if they were enlisted, they'd have stolen federal property.

Thanks.

[kantstudien]

Even if they were enlisted, they'd have stolen federal property.

Nope. Not "federal property" if you paid for it. Ever see what is says on the side of an original Colt 1911?

[Mr331]

I have seen many Colt AR mags marked "leo/Mil" That also have date stamps from pre '94. In this case the date stamp might save you.

[akjunkie]

i concur with mr. 331

LEO/MIl = Law Enforcement Offiicer/Military with a Pre 9/94 stamp on it. this sounds ok.

LAW ENFORCEMENT ONLY with a Post 9/94= BAD!