If the ATF were to ban "non-sporting" shotguns

[supermanuf]

How much warning would we have before such a ban would go into effect?

Been thinking about getting a new shotty... Do I have to hurry up?

[Ross]

Just buy a Mossberg or Remington, replace barrel, stock, and fore grip. Swap back and forth as required.

i.e. - don't worry about it.

[scrat]

nope pretty much any shotgun can be classified as a sporting shotgun. i have a couple single shot shotguns. if you need to classify them they are for hunting bird and old style clay birds. Yep. your classic home defense shot gun. Well that not a home defense shotgun thats a sporting style steel shooting competition shot gun. Which when you change the barrel can be used for hunting.


In short it would be pretty hard to stop shot gun sales. Pretty much for now its autoloading hand guns and rifles that are always in the eyes of the liberals.

[chaseface]

the ATF is doing a study determining the IMPORTABILITY of certain shotguns, aimed at those that they decide do not have a sporting purpose. Home grown US of A products are not in jepordy. But shotguns like the Saiga 12 could be, thats why there is a current hold on the importation of them while the study is being done. Heres the link to the ATF study http://www.atf.gov/publications/fire...n-shotguns.pdf

[scrat]

mmmm i did not know that. mmmmmmm well i have 6 shotguns so i think im ok. hopefully nothing happens though

[jaymz]

You have six shotguns so you're good. What about everyone else? Attitudes such as yours make it easier to pass the bans.

[chaseface]

yeah seriously, the price of Saiga 12 shotguns has gone up around $200 in the past few months. I even know of a gun shop in the bay area trying to charge $1400 bucks for one!!!!

[CSACANNONEER]

How much warning would we have before such a ban would go into effect?

Been thinking about getting a new shotty... Do I have to hurry up?

Naw, they won't include airsoft "shotties" in the ban. However, if you wanted to buy a new shotgun and are afraid of some sort of ban, I'd think about getting it within the next few years.

mmmm i did not know that. mmmmmmm well i have 6 shotguns so i think im ok. hopefully nothing happens though

Only 6? You really need to work on that part of your collection. I'd expect you to have at least 6 charcoal burning fowlers.

[wilit]

Like chaseface said, the proposed ban is on the import of non-sporting shotguns, not ownership. If Saiga were to license a company in the US to manufacture Saiga shotguns, then the non-sporting thing becomes a non-issue since they're not being imported.

[NytWolf]

All the ban would do is limit shotguns to a 5-round maximum and exclude "evil features". All Saiga would need to do is make 5-round magazines.

[chaseface]

Saigas are imported with 5 round magazines

[rromeo]

Saigas already come with 5 round magazines, it's my understanding that anything more requires 922(r) compliance. So, what does this study really prove?

[chaseface]

Well here's the way I see it, with rifles the ATF were able to restrict importation of rifles capable of using "high capacity" military magazines even if they were to be imported with a 10 round mag. Thats why Saiga rifles are imported with proprietary magazines and you must do a conversion to allow it to take the standard AK mag. So since in Russia, Saiga 12 shotguns can use magazines that hold over 5 rounds, including drum mags, it could pose a problem if the ATF attemps to use the same guidelines. The study does not mention whether or not they are taking that into consideration or whether they are only considering the shotgun the way it is imported.

[jaustin612]

ATF just doesn't like that after street sweepers got reclassified that people can have saigas, which are just as cool btw...

[Hogstir]

ATF should be happy to have another weapon they can "walk" into Mexico and then try to blame US citizens