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  • ADH
    Member
    • Aug 2010
    • 283

    Helmke is still trying to explain Heller away

    Heller is like a variable in an mathematical equation for which Helmke just can't solve.




    We've heard this nonsense from him before, but what's interesting is the delivery. He's lying, and he's wrong, and now you can see on his face that he knows it. He desperately wants his followers to believe that Heller has given him some magical tool to finally destroy equal protection carry rights but he knows that Heller will ultimately lead to expanded carry rights, not diminished. He knows that McDonald will ultimately lead to more uniform 2A protections not a further patchwork of inconsistent regulation.

    As usual, he's also full of cute little ad hominem titles for those of us that would not like to see our fundamental rights further encroached upon. He really ought to learn that name calling is a sure sign of a lost argument.

    The Brady Campaign and their ilk are demoralized and it is starting to show.
    Last edited by ADH; 03-18-2011, 12:45 PM. Reason: Fix link
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    soopafly
    Senior Member
    • Oct 2005
    • 2039

    adding comments to video is disabled...big surprise
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    • #3
      MP301
      Veteran Member
      • Oct 2008
      • 4168

      Well I guess the "Womens National Democratic Club" gets put on the list of stupid people I wouldnt give the time of day to.

      How can anyone who has an IQ above room temp even let Helmke speak to therm and still keep a straight face?
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      • #4
        G60
        Veteran Member
        • Feb 2008
        • 3989

        "You can't have pornography" ??
        "Any unarmed people are slaves, or are subject to slavery at any given moment." - Dr. Huey P. Newton

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        • #5
          Zak
          Member
          • Dec 2010
          • 401

          I'm honestly trying to see things from Paul's point of view, but I can't since it's just plain wrong. Sure, no guns in schools sounds good in theory, but Virginia Tech and Columbine show that it just doesn't work.

          Originally posted by G60
          "You can't have pornography" ??
          That's what I was thinking

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          • #6
            Coded-Dude
            Calguns Addict
            • Dec 2010
            • 6705

            its sick that a nation founded on freedom of religion doesn't hold Christian law higher than inalienable rights? /mind blown
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            • #7
              Stonewalker
              Veteran Member
              • Jun 2010
              • 2780

              Originally posted by ADH
              Heller is like a variable in an mathematical equation for which Helmke just can't solve.




              We've heard this nonsense from him before, but what's interesting is the delivery. He's lying, and he's wrong, and now you can see on his face that he knows it. He desperately wants his followers to believe that Heller has given him some magical tool to finally destroy equal protection carry rights but he knows that Heller will ultimately lead to expanded carry rights, not diminished. He knows that McDonald will ultimately lead to more uniform 2A protections not a further patchwork of inconsistent regulation.

              As usual, he's also full of cute little ad hominem titles for those of us that would not like to see our fundamental rights further encroached upon. He really ought to learn that name calling is a sure sign of a lost argument.

              The Brady Campaign and their ilk are demoralized and it is starting to show.
              The dangerous part is that people believe him. They listen to his words and feel for the victims. He is building a world-view where rights should be trampled in order to keep us all safer. How many times have you heard this - "if it saves even one life it's worth the cost"? Many people believe something along those lines, not just about guns but about all policy.

              Unfortunately that attitude exists in most legislatures I think - certainly in our federal legislature. This is dangerous to the RKBA and all the other rights that our constitution protects.
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              • #8
                yellowfin
                Calguns Addict
                • Nov 2007
                • 8371

                He's gotta say something to give Soros a reason to keep writing his paychecks.
                "You can't stop insane people from doing insane things with insane laws. That's insane!" -- Penn Jillette
                Originally posted by indiandave
                In Pennsylvania Your permit to carry concealed is called a License to carry fire arms. Other states call it a CCW. In New Jersey it's called a crime.
                Discretionary Issue is the new Separate but Equal.

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                • #9
                  Blackhawk556
                  Veteran Member
                  • Nov 2008
                  • 4182

                  I hope a carry case reaches scotus soon. Once we take that case, I hope he goes and hides in a hole. Before becoming a member here on calguns, I never knew how slow the court system moves.
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                  • #10
                    Blackhawk556
                    Veteran Member
                    • Nov 2008
                    • 4182

                    after watching that video, I have a question. What has the nra said about the 2A not being unlimited? What is their official response to that? Also, what is their response about scotus saying guns can be regulated? I've never read the nra's position on these issues.
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                    • #11
                      Legasat
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                      • Mar 2009
                      • 4151

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                      • #12
                        Window_Seat
                        Veteran Member
                        • Apr 2008
                        • 3533

                        Helmke says "You can limit or restrict who purchases guns"... "You can limit places where one can take a gun into"...

                        The Brady Campaign's idea of limits and restrictions is outside of one's bathroom in their house, and this is why the BC is losing more & more credibility every day, and the NRA is gaining.

                        Everytime he mentions the phrase "NRA Boss", he rewards the NRA (and others) with more credibility, and THAT'S NOT A MYTH. Keep up the good work, Mr. Helmke!

                        ETA: Everytime anyone from the BC is present at a forum or an organizing event where there is anyone carrying a firearm either openly or CCW, he proves beyond a reasonable doubt that society is NOT unsafe when there are more guns present.

                        Erik.
                        Last edited by Window_Seat; 03-18-2011, 1:57 PM.

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                        • #13
                          wazdat
                          Senior Member
                          • May 2009
                          • 514

                          Huh, now I'm a pusher...

                          Paul, I think the phrase you're struggling to remember (ignore) is, "... shall not be infringed."
                          Last edited by wazdat; 03-18-2011, 2:16 PM.
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                          • #14
                            USMCCPL
                            Junior Member
                            • Dec 2010
                            • 36

                            If I heard that I would counter it by saying how many lives will it cost...saves a life but cost 10 people theirs.

                            *Been lurking for years on this site and finally reg'd recently

                            Originally posted by Stonewalker
                            The dangerous part is that people believe him. They listen to his words and feel for the victims. He is building a world-view where rights should be trampled in order to keep us all safer. How many times have you heard this - "if it saves even one life it's worth the cost"? Many people believe something along those lines, not just about guns but about all policy.

                            Unfortunately that attitude exists in most legislatures I think - certainly in our federal legislature. This is dangerous to the RKBA and all the other rights that our constitution protects.

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                            • #15
                              Californio
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                              • Dec 2006
                              • 4169

                              The Left likes to blur the line between Natural Rights and the Rights created out of the concept of Social Justice and the sheeple believe it.

                              Natural Rights are the only inalienable Rights that we possess, per our humanity.

                              Social Justice is man made, transitory and subject to legislative change, but they intermix them for their own purpose, pretty fascist if you ask me.

                              We need to teach the sheep the difference between Natural and man made, they are very very Different.
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