CCW on Apartment Complex Property

[02psd]

I have been reading through this forum for a little bit of time now. Originally I joined to learn the rules of how to legally put together an AR-15 and to research different parts for it. I quickly found myself reading this section of the forum exclusively. I am not originally from California so I am trying to learn as much as the laws regarding firearms as I can, since being from Texas these are all pretty new to me. However my question at hand is regarding this thread: http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/s...d.php?t=404579. If I have read this correctly, the member was on his apartment complex property when the grip of his concealed weapon was accidentally exposed in view of a local LEO. The LEO then began to treat him as guilty until proven innocent. My question is whether the apartment complex parking lot is considered private property? And if it is, is a CCW even necessary in that situation (on private property)? I suppose that my question is am I legally allowed to carry concealed in the parking lot of my apartment complex like when I take the trash out late at night(anytime of day really) or go get something from my truck? Sorry for such the long post (on what I am pretty sure is my first post on this site). Thanks for the help.

[Bill Carson]

Not without a CCW

[nukechaser]

and welcome to the forum!

[CalBear]

For the purposes of gun free school zone laws, concealed weapon laws, and loaded firearm laws, I advise you to assume private = fully enclosed with public access restricted.

[Cokebottle]

For the purposes of gun free school zone laws, concealed weapon laws, and loaded firearm laws, I advise you to assume private = fully enclosed with public access restricted.

Which would not include even a gated community/apartment/condo complex, since, not being the owner, he does not have the right to refuse permission to pass or to eject someone.

[CalBear]

Which would not include even a gated community/apartment/condo complex, since, not being the owner, he does not have the right to refuse permission to pass or to eject someone.

Right. At least in the case of businesses, the courts have required the person to have some authority to kick people out.

[Librarian]

All correct so far.

The common areas of an apartment complex are NOT private in the same sense as the inside of your apartment.

So, without CCW, you may not carry outside your apartment.

The case law on point is People v Overturf; see the wiki: http://wiki.calgunsfoundation.org/in...oncealed_Carry

[2Bear]

The good news is, you may soon be able to get a CCW merely by applying for one.

(Shudder!)

That should be in two weeks.

(Everything is due in 2 weeks, a running joke here. Welcome aboard. And while it may take longer than 2 weeks, I'm serious about your CCW...)

[CalBear]

(Everything is due in 2 weeks, a running joke here. Welcome aboard. And while it may take longer than 2 weeks, I'm serious about your CCW...)

Everything does happen in 2 weeks. We've just altered the definition of a week!

[02psd]

Librarian, thanks for the link with proof. And thanks to everyone for the quick responses. From reading through the rest of this forum, it looks like we all are about to get a bunch of good news in two weeks.

[Kid Stanislaus]

The best news I could get in two weeks is that my wife, girlfriend and 14 yr. old daughter are not all overdue!