Locked and Loaded (Article)

[Librarian]

Not bad at all. My comments are awaiting moderation.

This is my response:


Edit: Dang it- I found two typos after I posted my comments... Oh well. Fixed em here.

Nice comment - another typo for you: "To deny this is to deny human physiology." When talking about sociopaths, probably mean 'psychology'

[Mute]

Is anyone else sick and tired of the yelling fire in a theater analogy? Most people can't seem to grasp that laws against yelling fire in a crowded theater is nothing like current gun control laws. If the analogy were to be accurate, we'd have laws mandating that all people have their mounts duct taped shut in public unless a permit to speak was issued by the government.

[Lone_Gunman]

Nice comment - another typo for you: "To deny this is to deny human physiology." When talking about sociopaths, probably mean 'psychology'

Well, I did use physiology based on my belief that there is a physical, perhaps chemical component to sociopathic behavior, but I could be wrong. I'm not a doctor, and I didn't stay at a Holiday Inn Express last night.

Both psychopaths and sociopaths suffer from a medical condition that makes it difficult to show empathy toward others. While there are clear differences between the two disorders, psychiatrists have labeled both disorders as Antisocial Behavior Personality in the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders, 4th edition (DSM-IV). Sociopaths suffer from a personality disorder that has anti-social traits. Psychopaths, on the other hand, have an anti-social personality disorder with marked aggressiveness.

Similarities

Sociopaths and psychopaths share a few common traits. Both disorders are often characterized by a lack of conscience, an inability to feel empathy toward others and little respect for the law. Both disorders tend to develop by age 15 and may begin with cruelty toward animals. People who suffer from anti-social disorders are usually impulsive, show little regard to their own safety or the safety of others, lies often, typically has had several run-ins with the law and becomes aggressive on impulse. This can lead to physical assault without regret. Often, the person has difficulty fulfilling financial obligations and does not plan for the future. However, both disorders are controllable with therapy and the right medication.

[santacruzstefan]

Wow. For UCSC, I'm impressed. Seems the author really did their research, and tried to keep bias out of it as much as possible. Plus, rarely do you see an article that is that extensive. I'll count this as a win for Santa Cruz.

[BlindRacer]

Is anyone else sick and tired of the yelling fire in a theater analogy? Most people can't seem to grasp that laws against yelling fire in a crowded theater is nothing like current gun control laws. If the analogy were to be accurate, we'd have laws mandating that all people have their mounts duct taped shut in public unless a permit to speak was issued by the government.

Correct, and to be more accurate on the other side of things, it would be more like actually firing a gun inside of a movie theater. Not just having it. You can have your voice, and pens, and paper as much as you want. But the misuse of those items is not occurring. As such, until brandishing, threatening, or firing a gun, the misuse of that item is not occurring.

[Dr Rockso]

Overall a pretty good article. While it's obvious that the author was trying to be objective and accurate, some nuggets of ignorance still fell through. Magazines and the federal AWB, machine guns unregulated, submachinegun TEC9s (not impossible but pretty unlikely). Would be nice if reporters would use a "gun proofreading" service...not to insert bias or substantially change the content of an article, but just someone that's familiar with guns and gun laws to point out little details.

[santacruzstefan]

Oh, but then this OpEd appears in the same issue: http://www.cityonahillpress.com/2011...ong-on-campus/

[Wherryj]

Is anyone else sick and tired of the yelling fire in a theater analogy? Most people can't seem to grasp that laws against yelling fire in a crowded theater is nothing like current gun control laws. If the analogy were to be accurate, we'd have laws mandating that all people have their mounts duct taped shut in public unless a permit to speak was issued by the government.

Also, on its own yelling "fire" in a crowded theater is not illegal. It is the dangerous situation that you caused, if you create a panic and people are hurt, that you are held liable for. Has anyone actually been successfully prosecuted for shouting fire and having no one react and no one injured?

You still have the right to say whatever you want in a public place, at least according to the Constitution. This, however, is being slowed "fixed" by our courts along with that pesky 2A and those pesky limits against absolute federal power.

[rips31]

not bad. i'd say it was maybe a good 80%+ neutral, with a hint of bias, but overall, very readable. refreshingly surprising to come from a uc-student-rag.

[wildhawker]

I am really impressed, not only in the representation of the issue, but in the writing.

[shotcaller6]

This is an outstanding example of professional Journalism, that all Journalists should aspire to.

[stix213]

“Instead of passing laws, the legislators could look to fund the local tools that can help fight [gun violence],” said deputy police chief Steve Clark of the Santa Cruz Police Department. “Out of [shootings], we get bad legislation that puts law enforcement at the forefront of what is really a social issue.”

“I’m not anti-gun control,” said SCPD deputy police chief Clark. “Gun control does have its merits — it does stop some people from getting a hold of one. But we haven’t seen gun control stop gun violence.”

Props to this guy for sure

[dantodd]

Any idea how the Santa Cruz city PD is wrt CCW issuance? The deputy chief sound quite rational.

[B Strong]

Better than I expected, with some of the standard anti-Second agitprop thrown in.

[otteray]

Any idea how the Santa Cruz city PD is wrt CCW issuance? The deputy chief sound quite rational.

Currently, slim to none for regular folk. And check out the Permit fees