Constitutional Carry Initiative

[Anti-Hero]

I'll come right out and say it. I voted A. I believe there should be a minimum level of competency involved when one wishes to carry a firearm for self defense. This should encompass the legal and moral obligations of self defense, a real range qualification, and possibly some scenario based training.

If you fail, come back next month.

[Cokebottle]

2A is as fundamental as the right to vote.

Training (education, critical thinking) should be as much a part of voting as everything that you mentioned should be a part of gun ownership.

But it should be up to the gun owner to seek and participate in this training. It should not be a requirement.
In the Constitution, there is a period immediately after "shall not be infringed."

[Anti-Hero]

2A is as fundamental as the right to vote.

Training (education, critical thinking) should be as much a part of voting as everything that you mentioned should be a part of gun ownership.

But it should be up to the gun owner to seek and participate in this training. It should not be a requirement.
In the Constitution, there is a period immediately after "shall not be infringed."

You can use the same argument for driving. Do you want unlicensed, untrained people, who don't know traffic laws, how to merge, etc. driving a two ton truck on the same roads as your family?

We already license one potentially deadly weapon. Why would you think another to be exempt?

Using voting is a terrible analogy. People don't get killed by hanging chads. If exercising your right involves the potential to kill or maim you better damn well have some kind of a clue what you're doing.

[N6ATF]

The penis gun is GOLD!

You can use the same argument for driving. Do you want unlicensed, untrained people, who don't know traffic laws, how to merge, etc. driving a two ton truck on the same roads as your family?

They already are, and the government refuses to permanently revoke their privileges even when they commit injurious crimes with their vehicles. The drag racing on public right-of-way scumbags who put my faultless brother in a coma and brain damaged him for life were found guilty, yet still were given their privilege back shortly afterward.

Why is the PRIVILEGE of driving afforded infinite leeway compared to the RIGHT which specifically "... shall not be infringed." ?

[Cokebottle]

We already license one potentially deadly weapon. Why would you think another to be exempt?

Operating a motor vehicle is not an enumerated right.

Using voting is a terrible analogy. People don't get killed by hanging chads.

They can be, and people have been killed as a result of the actions of elected officials, here and in many other countries.

[Anti-Hero]

We can wax philosophical all night long. My view on this subject won't change and I doubt yours will either.

[Cokebottle]

We can wax philosophical all night long. My view on this subject won't change and I doubt yours will either.

Actually, mine already has.


I used to agree with you.

[Anti-Hero]

Actually, mine already has.

I used to agree with you.

I'm not sure how I'll be able to sleep tonight.

[N6ATF]

There's no rest for the wicked, anyway...

[CalBear]

[jpigeon]

Im thinking constitutional carry could pass in CA

[FirstFlight]

B For Me!

[audiophil2]

I'll come right out and say it. I voted A. I believe there should be a minimum level of competency involved when one wishes to carry a firearm for self defense. This should encompass the legal and moral obligations of self defense, a real range qualification, and possibly some scenario based training.

If you fail, come back next month.

26 state governments, including CA, as well as the COTUS disagree with your belief.

I understand you are entitled to your opinion and are unlikely to change it but could you at least provide some logical explanation as to why you think you are right and the Constitution and majority of state governments are wrong?

[scarville]

The only way people are going to get used to seeing people with guns

Is to see people with guns.

Personally, it doesn't faze me in the least.

CCW is the best closet.

[dantodd]

I'll come right out and say it. I voted A. I believe there should be a minimum level of competency involved when one wishes to carry a firearm for self defense. This should encompass the legal and moral obligations of self defense, a real range qualification, and possibly some scenario based training.

If you fail, come back next month.

This is actually the information I was looking for. I am actually a little surprised there aren't more people who (when anonymous) believe that some level of basic competency should be required to carry.