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  • oldsmoboat
    Senior Member
    • Jul 2009
    • 1303

    Brookfield pays woman who brought gun to church $7,500

    ha ha /nelson



    The woman who was arrested at gunpoint after she wore her gun to a church in Brookfield, and a gun rights group, have settled a lawsuit against the city and the officers who arrested her for $7,500.
    Very interesting article, but ...
    Please do not post whole articles - see http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/s...d.php?t=363956
    // Librarian
    Last edited by Librarian; 01-04-2011, 6:37 PM.
    Do good recklessly
  • #2
    383green
    Veteran Member
    • Jan 2006
    • 4328

    With regards to Gunta, I'll take "people unclear on the concept" for $7500, please, Alex.
    They don't care about your stupid guns! --Mitch
    Mark J. Blair, NF6X

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    • #3
      Munk
      Senior Member
      • Jun 2010
      • 2124

      Originally posted by oldsmoboat
      Gunta, the city's lawyer, said if the lawsuit is really about the principle involved, the plaintiffs should consider donating the money back to Brookfield for gun education.
      ... Only if that donation is sent to a pro-gun education program. Most "Gun education" is just propagand and lies from the antis. Glad she won out and came out of it ok. Go wisconsin.
      Originally posted by greasemonkey
      1911's instill fairy dust in the bullets, making them more deadly.

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      • #4
        Super Spy
        Veteran Member
        • Mar 2009
        • 3461

        Nice....that'll teach 'em! a few thousand more cases like this and a SCOTUS case and maybe people will start to realize the 2nd amendment means what it says.
        Originally posted by Daytripper63
        "Looking a bit angry, he asked why I thought it was a Republican truck. I explained that if it were an Obama truck, the seats would blow smoke up your *** year-round. I had to walk back to the dealership. The guy had no sense of humor."

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        • #5
          press1280
          Veteran Member
          • Mar 2009
          • 3023

          This was completely avoidable by the PD. I may have given them some slack if they had just stumbled upon someone but the person called and told them they had it throughout the church service and nothing happened. They should have told the caller that yes, its legal, give us a call if that person starts making threats or actually shooting.
          I'm wondering if the dispatch people have to share some of the blame here?

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          • #6
            Patrick-2
            Senior Member
            • Dec 2010
            • 600

            Brookfield has some upper-middle class residents and better tax rolls than some neighbors (I know the area somewhat), but not enough to be doling out thousands for every OC call. Especially now that: everyone knows OC is legal; everyone knows Brookfield will pay at least $7500 for harassing you when you do it.

            Of course, once a pattern emerges with intent to harass (sounds like they admitted that in the interview)...damages get larger.

            I see lawyer's drooling somewhere in central Wisconsin. This is only a short drive from Milwaukee (40 minutes). Tough economy and easy money? Nah, nothing can go wrong for Brookfield here.
            ------
            Some Guy In Maryland

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            • #7
              The Shadow
              Veteran Member
              • Mar 2010
              • 3213

              Originally posted by oldsmoboat
              ha ha /nelson



              The woman who was arrested at gunpoint after she wore her gun to a church in Brookfield, and a gun rights group, have settled a lawsuit against the city and the officers who arrested her for $7,500.
              Good for her.

              An attorney for the city said police will still always respond in force to calls of a person with a gun, and if turns out to be an open carry situation, that's just the cost of doing business.
              If they are willing to put out 7500.00 everytime they violate someones rights, then perhaps the citizens of Wisconsin should up the ante.

              "These are kind of 'gotcha' cases," said the attorney, Greg Gunta. "The courts are being used for a political stage."
              No Mr. Gunta, these kind of cases are meant to punish those who have no regard for a persons Constitutional rights.

              Krysta Sutterfield sued the city and officers in October. She was arrested in July after attending services at the Unitarian Universalist Church while wearing her holstered handgun. There was no disturbance, but after the service someone called police to inquire and they responded, stopped Sutterfield as she was driving away and arrested her.
              What arrogance.

              Waukesha County District Attorney Brad Schimel later decided not to file charges.
              Well that's big of him. He didn't file charges because she wasn't guilty of any crime.

              Wisconsin Carry, Inc., a gun rights advocacy group to which Sutterfield belongs, joined her as a plaintiff in the federal lawsuit. Group president Nik Clark announced the judgment in an e-mail Monday night.

              The group "will continue to use legal recourse to deter unlawful treatment of law-abiding Wisconsin residents who currently exercise their right to open carry, and soon will exercise their right to concealed carry in Wisconsin," the announcement read.

              Other members and Wisconsin Carry have pending federal cases over police response to members wearing guns at a Madison Culver's in September and challenging the state ban on firearms within 1,000 feet of school zones.


              Brookfield's offer of judgment was "not an admission of liability on behalf of these defendants, and should not be construed as such," according to the offer. The judgment was entered Dec. 30.
              It never is, but just the same, they knew they had no leg to stand on.

              Gunta, the city's lawyer, said if the lawsuit is really about the principle involved, the plaintiffs should consider donating the money back to Brookfield for gun education.
              I have a better idea Mr Gunta, educate your police department or risk losing more money in punitive damages.
              sigpic Speaking about the destruction of the United States. "I answer, if it ever reach us, it must spring up amongst us. It cannot come from abroad. If destruction be our lot, we ourselves must be its author and finisher. As a nation of free men, we must live through all times, or die by suicide. Abraham Lincoln Speech at Edwardsville, IL, September 11, 1858

              Godwin's law

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              • #8
                stix213
                AKA: Joe Censored
                CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                • Apr 2009
                • 18998

                Between Wolanyk and now Sutterfield, open carry is turning into quite a money maker. Maybe I should quit my job and just OC all day until my money train pulls up and unjustly arrests me

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                • #9
                  cineski
                  Calguns Addict
                  • Nov 2007
                  • 6205

                  WI has some incredibly corrupt police. There's been all kinds of trouble with open carriers vs. police in this state.

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                  • #10
                    Fjold
                    I need a LIFE!!
                    • Oct 2005
                    • 22787

                    I wish that the police were forced to admit they were wrong as part of the settlement.

                    I would have held out for just lawyers fees and an admission of guilt by the PD and the City.
                    Frank

                    One rifle, one planet, Holland's 375




                    Life Member NRA, CRPA and SAF

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                    • #11
                      CCWFacts
                      Calguns Addict
                      • May 2007
                      • 6168

                      That's cool! I love all these pay-outs. I also love how much SF had to pay to the NRA legal team of Prop H, and how DC is going to be forced to buy Gura a new Bugatti or any similarly expensive toy he wants.
                      "Weakness is provocative."
                      Senator Tom Cotton, president in 2024

                      Victoria "Tori" Rose Smith's life mattered.

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                      • #12
                        choprzrul
                        Calguns Addict
                        • Oct 2009
                        • 6544

                        Originally posted by Fjold
                        I wish that the police were forced to admit they were wrong as part of the settlement.

                        I would have held out for just lawyers fees and an admission of guilt by the PD and the City.
                        I agree, and would add that they should start pursuing a % of the offending officer's retirement package. If 5% to 50% chunks of retirement started being awarded to the aggrieved, officers would start to think twice before stomping all over people's civil rights.

                        Just my $.02.

                        .

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                        • #13
                          The Shadow
                          Veteran Member
                          • Mar 2010
                          • 3213

                          Something to keep an eye on; there's every indication that Wisconsin WILL be shall issue before the end of 2011, and there is a push for Wisconsin to be Constitutional carry shortly after that. Brookfield better get with the program or they will have big problems in the future.
                          sigpic Speaking about the destruction of the United States. "I answer, if it ever reach us, it must spring up amongst us. It cannot come from abroad. If destruction be our lot, we ourselves must be its author and finisher. As a nation of free men, we must live through all times, or die by suicide. Abraham Lincoln Speech at Edwardsville, IL, September 11, 1858

                          Godwin's law

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                          • #14
                            CCWFacts
                            Calguns Addict
                            • May 2007
                            • 6168

                            Originally posted by The Shadow
                            Something to keep an eye on; there's every indication that Wisconsin WILL be shall issue before the end of 2011, and there is a push for Wisconsin to be Constitutional carry shortly after that.
                            I don't mean to nitpick, but their strategy right now is to skip the CCW phase entirely, and go to AZ / AK style "constitutional carry". That means you can carry without a CCW, and you can get a CCW if you want one. The optional CCW would be useful mainly for reciprocity purposes.

                            As the CCW movement has gathered strength the NRA is pushing for stronger and stronger CCW laws. "Constitutional carry" is the new "shall issue"!
                            "Weakness is provocative."
                            Senator Tom Cotton, president in 2024

                            Victoria "Tori" Rose Smith's life mattered.

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                            • #15
                              Glock22Fan
                              Calguns Addict
                              • May 2006
                              • 5752

                              Just part of the cost of doing business as usual. The city's lawyer said as much. Clearly they have no intent to change their minds.

                              Hand the money over for firearm education, for crying out loud? How about handing it over to educate the police and politicians that laws mean what they say? Hand it over, that is, to the nearest FFL. 7.5K will buy a nice custom 1911 (or whatever you fancy) and some ammo to go with it.

                              Wear a badge: "Custom 1911 kindly donated by City Council and your local Police Department. Ask me how you can get one."
                              Last edited by Glock22Fan; 01-04-2011, 7:29 PM. Reason: replaced "." by "?"
                              John -- bitter gun owner.

                              All opinions expressed here are my own unless I say otherwise.
                              I am not a lawyer and this is not legal advice.

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