DOJ "C&R + COE no 30 day exemption on modern pistols"FUD?

[guns4life]

First off it took over an hour and a half for Turners and the DOJ to figure out that I could DROS two modern pistols at the same time, and within 30 days. I called this morning to check the release time on them(10 days today) and was told by the dept manager that the DOJ had called shortly after the process on day 1 and told him(Turners Mgr) that it's against federal law and to cancel my DROS. The manager(knowing that's not the case) continued the DROS as normal, and I am getting my two pistols this afternoon. He was concerned that there might be consequences, but told me he would take the heat from DOJ should it come to that. WTF is going on here? Am I mistaken about the 30 day exemption all of a sudden? Does the CA DOJ enforce Federal law?

[PolishMike]

Completely legal but they will have to fill out a federal "multiple sales of handguns" for and report it to the atf.

My question is why would you do that at turners. Seems like your just searching for problems.

[guns4life]

Completely legal but they will have to fill out a federal "multiple sales of handguns" for and report it to the atf.

My question is why would you do that at turners. Seems like your just searching for problems.

I made sure they checked the multiple sales box, everything went by the book.

Ive been buying guns from Turners since I was of legal age, I like the company and take advantage of their clearance guns often. I've bought more guns from Turners than anywhere else, they all know me, and I get top notch service. Since I got my COE I wanted to familiarize them with the process...I took the bullet so others can now use that store(myself included) for multiple DROS.

[n2k]

Never had any issues using my C&R + COE at Turners Pasadena for multiple handgun purchases.

[guns4life]

Never had any issues using my C&R + COE at Turners Pasadena for multiple handgun purchases.

I'm not saying it's a Turners thing, it's a DOJ thing. Although, this Turners manager claims that only one other person has come in for multiple DROS to his recollection and it was probably a year or two ago...they'll remember this one for sure because every gun side employee was involved at some point. Haha

[Dump1567]

Wow, maybe the DOJ should force there employess to read there own FAQ section posted on their website.

I am a collector of firearms and I want to purchase a pair of consecutively-numbered pistols. Does the one-handgun-per-30-day restriction apply?



No. If you possess a valid federal Curio Relics Collector's license and a valid California Certificate of Eligibility, you are exempt from the one-handgun-per-30-day restriction.



(PC section 12072(a)(9)(x))

[jtmkinsd]

I'm not saying it's a Turners thing, it's a DOJ thing. Although, this Turners manager claims that only one other person has come in for multiple DROS to his recollection and it was probably a year or two ago...they'll remember this one for sure because every gun side employee was involved at some point. Haha

Sweet...calm and collected education in action...good job

Now if we can just get DOJ to get their act together...I suppose that's asking for too much

[Librarian]

Wow, maybe the DOJ should force there employess to read there own FAQ section posted on their website.

Looks like a typo in their FAQ re the PC cite - says "(x)", should be "(ix)"

(9)(A)No person shall make an application to purchase more than one pistol, revolver, or other firearm capable of being concealed upon the person within any 30-day period.

(B)Subparagraph (A) shall not apply to any of the following:

...

(ix)Any person who is licensed as a collector pursuant to Chapter 44 (commencing with Section 921) of Title 18 of the United States Code and the regulations issued pursuant thereto and who has a current certificate of eligibility issued to him or her by the Department of Justice pursuant to Section 12071.

(x)The exchange of a pistol, revolver, or other firearm capable of being concealed upon the person where the dealer purchased that firearm from the person seeking the exchange within the 30-day period immediately preceding the date of exchange or replacement.

[bwiese]

My sincere compliments to Turner's on continuing to push thru, and not be cowed, with what they knew was correct.

I have heard of this C&R+COE issue being a problem in other transactions.

Methinks the DOJ BoF may be running on some temp staff that knows even less than the regular employees.

[big red]

Some people at DOJ take their job seriously and read and learn the regulations while others don't seem to bother and DOJ will not go after those that are in the latter group. But you have the same issues with varying gun dealers and individuals. It is good someone knows what they are doing but unfortunately they are the exception and not the rule regardless of which side of the regs they are on.

[jtmkinsd]

My sincere compliments to Turner's on continuing to push thru, and not be cowed, with what they knew was correct.

I have heard of this C&R+COE issue being a problem in other transactions.

Methinks the DOJ BoF may be running on some temp staff that knows even less than the regular employees.

Wow...that's really scary.