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  • #31
    383green
    Veteran Member
    • Jan 2006
    • 4328

    Originally posted by E Pluribus Unum
    I don't want this to degenerate into another "gay" thread.
    Then why did you bring the topic up?

    Originally posted by E Pluribus Unum
    Like it or not, most people who are empathetic to the "gay rights" cause, are also anti-gun. It does not make it automatically so, but statistically speaking, it's a safe bet.
    She performed a wedding. It was part of her job. It has nothing at all to do with her RKBA views.
    They don't care about your stupid guns! --Mitch
    Mark J. Blair, NF6X

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    • #32
      762cavalier
      NRA Training Counselor
      CGN Contributor
      • Oct 2005
      • 3626

      Originally posted by E Pluribus Unum
      I don't want this to degenerate into another "gay" thread. Like it or not, most people who are empathetic to the "gay rights" cause, are also anti-gun. It does not make it automatically so, but statistically speaking, it's a safe bet.
      facts or you're just blowing smoke up peoples hind side.

      Nevermind don't feed the troll.
      In any type of fight, & especially gun fights, there are no winners ..... just varying degrees of losers. The only fight you win is the one you never get into.

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      • #33
        Gray Peterson
        Calguns Addict
        • Jan 2005
        • 5817

        Originally posted by E Pluribus Unum
        No it does not... but you have to admit that greater than 90% of gays are anti-gun.
        I admit no such thing because my own experiences show this not to be true. Remember that gay people are not clustered all inside of San Francisco and West Hollywood. There are many gay people who grew up in rural America that believe in their right to keep and bear arms as much as they believe in their own equality in their own person. The existence of the Log Cabin Republicans and GOProud. You have many gay people in the urban centers also who have merely been espousing gun control to keep in good terms with their "liberal allies" who lately have been stabbing them in the back on various different issues on the federal level, and as a result, they're being going through their own political awakening. I forsee a creation of a new national political LGBT rights organization that is modeled on the NRA-ILA in the next 12 months, that will focus SOLELY on LGBT issues, rather than being bought and paid for extensions of the Democratic party.

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        • #34
          Scarecrow Repair
          Senior Member
          • May 2006
          • 2425

          Originally posted by E Pluribus Unum
          I don't want this to degenerate into another "gay" thread.
          So a little gasoline on the fire can't hurt. Oops! You musta thought it was a sand fire.

          Originally posted by E Pluribus Unum
          Like it or not, most people who are empathetic to the "gay rights" cause, are also anti-gun. It does not make it automatically so, but statistically speaking, it's a safe bet.
          Most people who live in California are also anti-gun, statistically speaking.

          Most people in California who use kleenex are also anti-gun.

          Most people assume that someone who puts "gay rights" in quotes as if it's not a real term is "anti" "gay rights". It's not automatic, but it's a safe bet.
          Mention the Deacons for Defense and Justice and make both left and right wingnuts squirm

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          • #35
            E Pluribus Unum
            Calguns Addict
            • Dec 2006
            • 8097

            Originally posted by Gray Peterson
            I admit no such thing because my own experiences show this not to be true. Remember that gay people are not clustered all inside of San Francisco and West Hollywood. There are many gay people who grew up in rural America that believe in their right to keep and bear arms as much as they believe in their own equality in their own person. The existence of the Log Cabin Republicans and GOProud. You have many gay people in the urban centers also who have merely been espousing gun control to keep in good terms with their "liberal allies" who lately have been stabbing them in the back on various different issues on the federal level, and as a result, they're being going through their own political awakening. I forsee a creation of a new national political LGBT rights organization that is modeled on the NRA-ILA in the next 12 months, that will focus SOLELY on LGBT issues, rather than being bought and paid for extensions of the Democratic party.
            Then we have different experiences.

            I will tell you that I am closer ideologically to a gay man who is pro gun, then I am an Anti-gay who is also anti-gun.

            As long as gays don't try to push their beliefs on me, I have no problem with them.
            Originally posted by Alan Gura
            The Second Amendment now applies to state and local governments. Our lawsuit is a reminder to state and local bureaucrats that we have a Bill of Rights in this country, not a Bill of Needs
            Originally posted by hoffmang
            12050[CCW] licenses will be shall issue soon.

            -Gene
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            • #36
              Gray Peterson
              Calguns Addict
              • Jan 2005
              • 5817

              Originally posted by E Pluribus Unum
              Then we have different experiences.
              You live in the state where there's been a very strong alliance between members of the LGBT political community (note, I said "political", there are lots of folks you don't know who generally hate politics with a passion) and the California Democratic party. You live in a state with no RKBA amendment

              I will tell you that I am closer ideologically to a gay man who is pro gun, then I am an Anti-gay who is also anti-gun.
              Good.

              As long as gays don't try to push their beliefs on me, I have no problem with them.
              Define "push". Define "belief".

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              • #37
                wildhawker
                I need a LIFE!!
                • Nov 2008
                • 14150

                Originally posted by Gray Peterson
                Define "push". Define "belief".
                Aggressive enforcement of good fashion?
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                • #38
                  caoboy
                  Senior Member
                  • May 2009
                  • 2400

                  Does she make good Lumpias?

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                  • #39
                    rromeo
                    Calguns Addict
                    • Sep 2009
                    • 6981

                    I hope so.
                    Never initiate force against another. That should be the underlying principle of your life. But should someone do violence to you, retaliate without hesitation, without reservation, without quarter, until you are sure that he will never wish to harm - or never be capable of harming - you or yours again.

                    - from THE SECOND BOOK OF KYFHO
                    (Revised Eastern Sect Edition)

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                    • #40
                      E Pluribus Unum
                      Calguns Addict
                      • Dec 2006
                      • 8097

                      Originally posted by Gray Peterson
                      Define "push". Define "belief".
                      You know what I am talking about. I don't want to go into it because there is no way you will ever see what I am talking about and all it will do is offend you, and waste my time.

                      All you need to know is that outside any religious discussion, I don't care what you do with another consenting adult in the privacy of your home; just don't try to do it in front of me and my family.
                      Originally posted by Alan Gura
                      The Second Amendment now applies to state and local governments. Our lawsuit is a reminder to state and local bureaucrats that we have a Bill of Rights in this country, not a Bill of Needs
                      Originally posted by hoffmang
                      12050[CCW] licenses will be shall issue soon.

                      -Gene
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                      • #41
                        Sgt Raven
                        Veteran Member
                        • Dec 2005
                        • 3785

                        Originally posted by E Pluribus Unum
                        You know what I am talking about. I don't want to go into it because there is no way you will ever see what I am talking about and all it will do is offend you, and waste my time.

                        All you need to know is that outside any religious discussion, I don't care what you do with another consenting adult in the privacy of your home; just don't try to do it in front of me and my family.
                        But you're fine showing your religious beliefs in front of people who don't share it.
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                        • #42
                          E Pluribus Unum
                          Calguns Addict
                          • Dec 2006
                          • 8097

                          Originally posted by Sgt Raven
                          But you're fine showing your religious beliefs in front of people who don't share it.
                          You wont catch me going door to door pushing those beliefs on others. If you saw me in my day-to-day activities, you would have no clue what my religious beliefs are. If you ask me, I would be glad to share them, but I don't usually initiate anything.
                          Originally posted by Alan Gura
                          The Second Amendment now applies to state and local governments. Our lawsuit is a reminder to state and local bureaucrats that we have a Bill of Rights in this country, not a Bill of Needs
                          Originally posted by hoffmang
                          12050[CCW] licenses will be shall issue soon.

                          -Gene
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                          • #43
                            383green
                            Veteran Member
                            • Jan 2006
                            • 4328

                            Originally posted by E Pluribus Unum
                            You wont catch me going door to door pushing those beliefs on others [...] but I don't usually initiate anything.
                            And yet, you're the one who introduced this whole derail:

                            Originally posted by E Pluribus Unum
                            [...] performed a gay wedding. That should pretty much peg it right there.
                            They don't care about your stupid guns! --Mitch
                            Mark J. Blair, NF6X

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                            • #44
                              uyoga
                              CGN/CGSSA Contributor - Lifetime
                              CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                              • Sep 2010
                              • 681

                              The topic of this thread, it appears, was "How is the recently appointed - and elected - Chief Justice going to affect our right to keep and bears arms, such as it exists in California".

                              We seem to have strayed from that topic, and now appear to be attacking one another over what seems to be sexual orientation. ???????

                              We need to support the issues that unite us. We must do it with vigor.

                              It doesn't matter what sexual orientation an anti gun POS is - he/she is still an anti gun POS.

                              It doesn't matter what sexual orientation a Second Amendment supporter is - he/she is a friend.

                              Can we get back on topic?
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                              • #45
                                Gray Peterson
                                Calguns Addict
                                • Jan 2005
                                • 5817

                                Agreed.

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