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  • vantec08
    Veteran Member
    • Sep 2009
    • 3795

    Kansas ensures the 2nd

    It was a great victory and this record setting vote as no other gun rights initiative has passed with this overwhelming of a vote in the entire country...
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    ptoguy2002
    Veteran Member
    • Jul 2006
    • 3863

    Now we just need a Cali state const. Amendment that says the same.
    I doubt the vote in Cali would be any where near that though.
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    • #3
      trautert
      Senior Member
      • Mar 2008
      • 653

      Sure it would. Just in the opposite direction.
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      • #4
        Eat Dirt
        Calguns Addict
        • Nov 2007
        • 9315

        As a nation ..Don't we already have something like that

        I think it's called ' The Second Amendment '
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        • #5
          Nodda Duma
          • Nov 2007
          • 3455

          Yes but as we've learned, it's better to have it declared at all levels of government.
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          • #6
            Exile Machine
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            CGN Contributor - Lifetime
            • Oct 2009
            • 9551

            I lived in Kansas in 2005-2007 right before moving to CA. It was a patchwork of restrictive local gun ordinances and no CCW, ruled from the liberal enclave of Topeka, by her Majesty Kathleen Sibelius. How far they've come since then and what great news this is.

            -Mark
            Manufacturer of CA AWB Compliance Products from Oct 2009 to Nov 2018

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            • #7
              putput
              Senior Member
              • Mar 2009
              • 775

              Kansas already had a 2A and they just "double downed" on it. This can be cited as to how americans feel about the "outdated" little right in the constitution. Let's hope some other states follow their lead.
              Last edited by putput; 11-06-2010, 10:42 AM.
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              • #8
                hoffmang
                I need a LIFE!!
                • Apr 2006
                • 18448

                This is more important than most state RKBA changes. This specifically overturns Salina v. Blaksley which was the very first State Supreme Court decision that adopted the so called "collective rights" or "states rights" approach to interpreting state and federal right to bear arms provisions.

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                • #9
                  CCWFacts
                  Calguns Addict
                  • May 2007
                  • 6168

                  This is great. It's significant because of the overwhelming majority approval it got. It's significant because it gives a modern, unambiguous word choice which (hopefully) will have less room for tortured and weaselly interpretations. And as Gene says, this amendment is the people of Kansas telling their court, "no, you idiots, your interpretation was wrong, so we're passing this again in language simple enough that judges can understand it."

                  Originally posted by vantec08
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                  That seems to mean that various types of military weapons have some state-level protection in Kansas now. I have a feeling that we're in for a round of attempts to weaken Wickard, what with all the challenges to Obamacare and the Firearms Freedoms Acts being passed. I note that some states have also passed state const. amends. that guarantee healthcare choice, which is also setting up some challenges. Whether these will make any progress remains to be seen.
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                  • #10
                    M1A Rifleman
                    Veteran Member
                    • Oct 2005
                    • 3518

                    Originally posted by ptoguy2002
                    Now we just need a Cali state const. Amendment that says the same.
                    I doubt the vote in Cali would be any where near that though.
                    I'm sure any vote regarding the 2nd in this state would go the other way as to establish no 2nd right exists regardless of what the supreems say.
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                    • #11
                      rideanddive
                      Member
                      • Mar 2009
                      • 163

                      Kansas CCW?

                      Willl this allow Kansans to carry concealed without a specific permit?
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                      • #12
                        N6ATF
                        Banned
                        • Jul 2007
                        • 8383

                        Citizens: "Stop infringing on the RKBA! Or we shall say STOP, again!"
                        Courts: "Suck a muffler."
                        Citizens: "You first."
                        Last edited by N6ATF; 11-06-2010, 3:18 PM.

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                        • #13
                          Merle
                          Member
                          • Jul 2009
                          • 372

                          Originally posted by Eat Dirt
                          As a nation ..Don't we already have something like that

                          I think it's called ' The Second Amendment '
                          Originally posted by N6ATF
                          Citizens: "Stop infringing on the RKBA! Or we shall say STOP, again!"
                          Courts: "Suck a muffler."

                          ?
                          ROFLMAO

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                          • #14
                            hoffmang
                            I need a LIFE!!
                            • Apr 2006
                            • 18448

                            Originally posted by N6ATF
                            Citizens: "Stop infringing on the RKBA! Or we shall say STOP, again!"
                            Courts: "Suck a muffler."

                            ?
                            It really actually doesn't work that way. If you have a constitutional super majority in a state like Kansas and the Kansas Supreme Court continues to be intransigent, you can disband them and start over. A smaller version of that happened in Iowa over a gay marriage case. I think it was wrong on the policy, but it wasn't wrong as a conceivable constitutional structure for the judges to have been voted out there.

                            -Gene
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                            • #15
                              N6ATF
                              Banned
                              • Jul 2007
                              • 8383

                              Thought so.

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