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  • videy
    Junior Member
    • Oct 2010
    • 1

    question on out of state hi-cap mag purchase

    Hi There.

    apologies this is probably a FAQ, but I'm not able to find an answer through searching.

    I'm going to visit some buddies out of state. While out of state we plan to go shooting. My understanding is that it is perfectly legal for me to purchase and use high capacity (> 10 rounds) magazines while I am out of state (high capacity magazines legal in the state I will be visiting).

    My question is in regards to after my trip. Is it legal for me to disassemble the high-cap magazines and bring them back into california as "parts"? Upon my return to California I will take whatever action is needed to re-assemble said parts into compliant 10 round magazines (rivets, blocks, etc).

    thanks for your advice.
  • #2
    vintagearms
    Calguns Addict
    • Jan 2009
    • 6841

    yes

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    • #3
      BKinzey
      OT Banned
      CGN Contributor
      • May 2009
      • 4390

      Yes, that would be legal.
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      • #4
        packnrat
        Veteran Member
        • Feb 2007
        • 3939

        rebuild parts are just parts.
        just do not assemble any mags while in CA.

        .
        big gun's...i love big gun's

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        • #5
          Exile Machine
          No longer in Business
          CGN Contributor - Lifetime
          • Oct 2009
          • 9551

          parts is parts
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          • #6
            Falstaff
            Senior Member
            • Mar 2010
            • 2317

            Don't tell the gun store FUD dispenser you're from CA. California gun store employees are generally ignorant of CA gun laws, out of state gun stores are woefully, completely ignorant of CA law. I was in Austin TX recently and the gun store there wouldnt even sell me ammo because I was from CA...

            The big TX gun store i went to was the one where Rick Perry supposedly shops, they told me it would be a federal felony for them to sell me a magazine!!

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            • #7
              OleCuss
              Calguns Addict
              • Jun 2009
              • 7981

              Originally posted by packnrat
              rebuild parts are just parts.
              just do not assemble any 10+ round mags while in CA.

              .
              Fixored to fit your intent.
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              • #8
                oni.dori
                Senior Member
                • Oct 2010
                • 1007

                Ok, now I'm confused. I was just reading on another thread in this section that it was perfectly legal to have an assembled 10+ round magazine here in CA, as long as it was not sold to said individual in the state and/or they did not bring it across the state line in to CA assembled. So, if that's true, why couldn't said person assemble it once in CA?
                Originally posted by 383green
                Stockpiling ammunition is like investing in a 401k that allows you to make withdrawals in the form of kinetic energy.
                Originally posted by oaklander
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                • #9
                  eldonvieira
                  Junior Member
                  • Jan 2010
                  • 59

                  because then you are manufacturing a high capacity magazine

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                  • #10
                    Librarian
                    Admin and Poltergeist
                    CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                    • Oct 2005
                    • 44628

                    Originally posted by oni.dori
                    Ok, now I'm confused. I was just reading on another thread in this section that it was perfectly legal to have an assembled 10+ round magazine here in CA, as long as it was not sold to said individual in the state and/or they did not bring it across the state line in to CA assembled. So, if that's true, why couldn't said person assemble it once in CA?
                    Originally posted by eldonvieira
                    because then you are manufacturing a high capacity magazine
                    Right. Parts are just parts, but manufacturing a new large-capacity magazine in CA from those parts is illegal.
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                    • #11
                      the_quark
                      Senior Member
                      • May 2006
                      • 1003

                      Originally posted by oni.dori
                      Ok, now I'm confused. I was just reading on another thread in this section that it was perfectly legal to have an assembled 10+ round magazine here in CA, as long as it was not sold to said individual in the state and/or they did not bring it across the state line in to CA assembled. So, if that's true, why couldn't said person assemble it once in CA?
                      Because, the act of assembling it is a crime. Once you've done that, possessing the assembled magazine isn't a crime (but, you're keeping around evidence of your prior crime).

                      Similarly if you didn't disassemble it before you brought it in - importing it is a crime. Having it here after you've illegally imported it isn't a separate crime.
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                      • #12
                        dantodd
                        Calguns Addict
                        • Aug 2009
                        • 9360

                        Originally posted by OleCuss
                        Fixored to fit your intent.
                        I think you meant 11+ or >10 as 10 rd. mags are perfectly legal.
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                        • #13
                          oni.dori
                          Senior Member
                          • Oct 2010
                          • 1007

                          Originally posted by the_quark
                          Because, the act of assembling it is a crime. Once you've done that, possessing the assembled magazine isn't a crime (but, you're keeping around evidence of your prior crime).

                          Similarly if you didn't disassemble it before you brought it in - importing it is a crime. Having it here after you've illegally imported it isn't a separate crime.
                          Aha!! I understand now. The technicalities in that law were confusing me. Thanks for the clarification.
                          Originally posted by 383green
                          Stockpiling ammunition is like investing in a 401k that allows you to make withdrawals in the form of kinetic energy.
                          Originally posted by oaklander
                          I will NOT be a part of a civil rights movement which contains its own version of "P.C."
                          5-23-11 The day the Sleeping Giant awoke.

                          "...What in the world is a moderate interpretation of a constitutional text? Halfway between what it says and what we'd like it to say?"
                          -A. Scalia 2005

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                          • #14
                            oni.dori
                            Senior Member
                            • Oct 2010
                            • 1007

                            Originally posted by dantodd
                            I think you meant 11+ or >10 as 10 rd. mags are perfectly legal.
                            Yes, I did mean that. That is why I put the plus after the 10, as in saying more than, or adding to 10 (AKA "over").
                            Originally posted by 383green
                            Stockpiling ammunition is like investing in a 401k that allows you to make withdrawals in the form of kinetic energy.
                            Originally posted by oaklander
                            I will NOT be a part of a civil rights movement which contains its own version of "P.C."
                            5-23-11 The day the Sleeping Giant awoke.

                            "...What in the world is a moderate interpretation of a constitutional text? Halfway between what it says and what we'd like it to say?"
                            -A. Scalia 2005

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                            • #15
                              LazyBoy
                              Member
                              • Sep 2009
                              • 137

                              If you have hi cap pre-ban mags couldn't you use a mag parts kits to rebuild a damaged mag? When I say pre-ban I mean purchased before 1994.
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