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  • #31
    CSDGuy
    Veteran Member
    • Mar 2007
    • 3763

    Originally posted by negolien
    Priority #1 in my opinion should be getting more boots on the ground. The fact that 45% of the force has been cut is complete and utter lunacy. When will essential services get the funding they need. Kings Arenas, welfare and other entitlements to both the county and its citizens should never come before essential services.
    I'd agree with that... and guess what? Getting more boots on the ground is not something that the Sheriff can do on his own. He can have staff write grant requests... he can lobby the Board of Supervisors... but whatever he gets for funding, he's stuck with. What's worse is that he's locked into providing certain levels of service to the jails, courts, airport, contract cities... so maintaining those and patrol services and everything else gets difficult. The incoming Sheriff has got a budgetary mess on his hands so he's going to have to come up with a way to do what needs to be done in a more efficient manner.

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    • #32
      Frank Scafidi
      Junior Member
      • May 2010
      • 21

      Originally posted by CSDGuy
      I'd agree with that... and guess what? Getting more boots on the ground is not something that the Sheriff can do on his own. He can have staff write grant requests... he can lobby the Board of Supervisors... but whatever he gets for funding, he's stuck with. What's worse is that he's locked into providing certain levels of service to the jails, courts, airport, contract cities... so maintaining those and patrol services and everything else gets difficult. The incoming Sheriff has got a budgetary mess on his hands so he's going to have to come up with a way to do what needs to be done in a more efficient manner.
      The fiscal health and resource utilization of the sheriff's department under McGinness has not been adequately explored, IMO, and doing so might help explain why 130 deputies had to be laid off last year in the first place.

      Indeed, the sheriff gets a budget from the BOS, but there were and are ways for the department to use those dollars more effectively--McGinness, presumably with the concurrence of his legal advisor and chief of staff, Scott Jones, chose to create specialty units (the motorcycle crew comes to mind) rather than keeping the focus on front-line enforcement.

      Scott Jones likes to point to his time as the jail commander as a high water mark in his career, yet why didn't he lobby the sheriff to replace sworn deputies in the jails with corrections officers or some other classification of personnel allowing the sworn folks to hit the streets?

      Why couldn't POP officers (while we had them) handle calls for service as their duties permitted rather than just POP calls?

      My point is that McGinness could have done more to protect those jobs but was either unwilling or uninterested in doing so. Instead, he chose to engage the public through fear mongering and urge them to contact the BOS to demand that his funding be enhanced.

      That is despicable and pathetic leadership.

      I don't think Jones will be so callous, should he be elected, but he is next in the long tradition of "accepting the baton" from the outgoing sheriff. Why?

      Cooper, on the other hand, has identified areas where budget dollars could be saved and where cuts could have been made to spare those patrol jobs.
      And Cooper knows where to go to find the buried treasure.

      Who has a more vested interest in keeping the department's secrets under wraps?

      Cooper is the better choice for sheriff next Tuesday.

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      • #33
        Jim Cooper for Sheriff
        Junior Member
        • Sep 2010
        • 7

        To All here at Calguns,

        Tonight on Channel 10 in Sac, during a debate with my opponent I stated Calguns endorsed me. I know this organization does not endorse candidates and it was a gaff in the heat of the conversation. I sincerely apologize.

        Everyone on this site has been absolutely great to me. You have answered all my questions and helped me along the way, and even called me out on issues. Again, although many on this forum support me I do sincerely apologize if I offended any of you, or this organization by making this mistake.

        Regardless of how this election turns out I will be back on here after Nov. 3rd offering my thanks once again.

        Jim

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        • #34
          Gray Peterson
          Calguns Addict
          • Jan 2005
          • 5817

          Jim,

          Thanks for stopping by on the forum and admitting the error, and good luck on Tuesday.

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          • #35
            Seesm
            Calguns Addict
            • Nov 2008
            • 7812

            I did not meet Jones but I did meet Cooper and he seemed like a very nice guy and was honest that he was not into CCW till he learned more about it all... I think that shows what kind of guy he is...

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            • #36
              samonya
              Member
              • Sep 2009
              • 215

              where can I find the debate

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              • #37
                RP1911
                Calguns Addict
                • Sep 2007
                • 5197

                Originally posted by Jim Cooper for Sheriff
                To All here at Calguns,

                Tonight on Channel 10 in Sac, during a debate with my opponent I stated Calguns endorsed me. I know this organization does not endorse candidates and it was a gaff in the heat of the conversation. I sincerely apologize.

                Everyone on this site has been absolutely great to me. You have answered all my questions and helped me along the way, and even called me out on issues. Again, although many on this forum support me I do sincerely apologize if I offended any of you, or this organization by making this mistake.

                Regardless of how this election turns out I will be back on here after Nov. 3rd offering my thanks once again.

                Jim

                Check your private message please.
                RP1911
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                NRA Life
                CGN

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                • #38
                  jb7706
                  Senior Member
                  • Mar 2008
                  • 1570

                  Originally posted by samonya
                  where can I find the debate
                  Not certain, but I think this is it: http://www.news10.net/news/local/sto...03113&catid=29

                  ETA: That is the correct debate, CCW and Jim's endorsement gaffe is in part 2.
                  Last edited by jb7706; 10-29-2010, 10:16 AM.

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                  • #39
                    samonya
                    Member
                    • Sep 2009
                    • 215

                    Jones was just on the Armstrong and Getty show. Every time that guy talks ccw he makes me uncomfortable. He sounded just like Mcgiuness when he was on the show last week. He said Sykes didnt matter and that there was no change in policy.

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                    • #40
                      thebronze
                      Senior Member
                      • Jul 2007
                      • 966

                      Originally posted by samonya
                      Jones was just on the Armstrong and Getty show. Every time that guy talks ccw he makes me uncomfortable. He sounded just like Mcgiuness when he was on the show last week. He said Sykes didnt matter and that there was no change in policy.
                      That's because he's a liar. Just like Sheriff Turkey-neck!

                      How many times has Scott Jones been on these boards?

                      How many times has Cooper?
                      Retired Mil & former Copper

                      Semper Fi!

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                      • #41
                        Socom16Fan
                        Member
                        • Mar 2008
                        • 220

                        Originally posted by thebronze
                        Just for clarification, my post about Jones was pure sarcasm. Meaning, a vote for Jones is a vote for another four years of John McGinness.
                        /\ That /\

                        I have seen both speak about this issue. Cooper definitely has the straight up NON political, get it done attitude. Cooper has also spoke of his former lack of understanding of the CCW (legal) issue and clearly articulated that he researched the issue and came to the conclusion that he needed to be educated...and was... on the constitutional right to bear arms. Most specifically that he believes in a shall issue policy. He ate crow, he did it with dignity, he did it with humility, and then took a pro CCW stance.

                        Jones...not so much...

                        Being intimately involved with the Sheriff's race next door to Sac here in El Dorado County, I have developed a keen BS detector in regards to the politics of these races.

                        If you live in Sac county then please vote for Cooper

                        If you live in El Dorado County, please vote for John D'Agostini. John is a good man not corrupted by politics and believes we should all be able to CC for personal protection. Therkildsen....not so much...

                        And yes John is my friend so bias my vote may be. But I truly believe him to be a better man for the job.
                        NRA Firearms Instructor
                        Cal DOJ HSC Instructor
                        CCW instructor El Dorado County, Sac County, +

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                        Originally posted by Black Majik
                        Also, don't forget, bring a slower friend.
                        Originally posted by magic32
                        i was hoping for a 1911. very disappointing. it's like you are getting ready to have a threesome with jessica alba and scarlett johansen and finding out they're both dudes...

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                        • #42
                          Gray Peterson
                          Calguns Addict
                          • Jan 2005
                          • 5817

                          Originally posted by Socom16Fan
                          /\ That /\

                          I have seen both speak about this issue. Cooper definitely has the straight up NON political, get it done attitude. Cooper has also spoke of his former lack of understanding of the CCW (legal) issue and clearly articulated that he researched the issue and came to the conclusion that he needed to be educated...and was... on the constitutional right to bear arms. Most specifically that he believes in a shall issue policy. He ate crow, he did it with dignity, he did it with humility, and then took a pro CCW stance.

                          Jones...not so much...

                          Being intimately involved with the Sheriff's race next door to Sac here in El Dorado County, I have developed a keen BS detector in regards to the politics of these races.

                          If you live in Sac county then please vote for Cooper

                          If you live in El Dorado County, please vote for John D'Agostini. John is a good man not corrupted by politics and believes we should all be able to CC for personal protection. Therkildsen....not so much...

                          And yes John is my friend so bias my vote may be. But I truly believe him to be a better man for the job.

                          I have to agree. Though I'm a little leery about endorsing anyone in Sacramento (both said "shall-issue"), the choice is clear in EDC: D'Agostini is the more pro-gun candidate.

                          -Gray

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                          • #43
                            thebronze
                            Senior Member
                            • Jul 2007
                            • 966

                            Originally posted by Socom16Fan
                            /\ That /\

                            I have seen both speak about this issue. Cooper definitely has the straight up NON political, get it done attitude. Cooper has also spoke of his former lack of understanding of the CCW (legal) issue and clearly articulated that he researched the issue and came to the conclusion that he needed to be educated...and was... on the constitutional right to bear arms. Most specifically that he believes in a shall issue policy. He ate crow, he did it with dignity, he did it with humility, and then took a pro CCW stance.

                            Jones...not so much...

                            Being intimately involved with the Sheriff's race next door to Sac here in El Dorado County, I have developed a keen BS detector in regards to the politics of these races.

                            If you live in Sac county then please vote for Cooper

                            If you live in El Dorado County, please vote for John D'Agostini. John is a good man not corrupted by politics and believes we should all be able to CC for personal protection. Therkildsen....not so much...
                            And yes John is my friend so bias my vote may be. But I truly believe him to be a better man for the job.

                            Therkildsen is a crook and a liar.

                            The rest of what you said about Cooper/Jones is spot-on.
                            Retired Mil & former Copper

                            Semper Fi!

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                            • #44
                              Bret Daniels
                              Junior Member
                              • Apr 2010
                              • 98

                              In October of last year, I announced my intention running for Sheriff of Sacramento County. My decision was based on my desire to see the people of Sacramento County protected to the best of the ability of the Sacramento Sheriff’s Department, to allow them to protect themselves through commonsense issuing of Concealed Weapons permits and to provide the members of the department the ability to do their jobs to the fullest extent. My desire is still to see the citizens of Sacramento County protected to the fullest extent and the fine men and women of the Sacramento Sheriff’s Department led properly. It is with that desire that I am supporting Captain Jim Cooper for Sheriff of Sacramento County.

                              Many factors were involved in my decision to support Captain Cooper but foremost in that decision was Captain Cooper’s significant level of direct law-enforcement experience as opposed to Captain Jones’ six-month career on the streets. The citizens of Sacramento County do not need a lawyer to protect them; they need a cop that understands what it means to put his life on the line day after day. They need someone that has been willing to put himself in the trenches and in harm’s way and not a person who has driven a desk for 20 years building a resume. And the good men and women of the Sacramento Sheriff’s Department need a leader they can respect, not one that they feel engaged in an on-going criminal relationship with known ex-felons to provide confidential information in exchange for financial gain despite what the media wants to report.

                              In making the decision to support Captain Jim Cooper, his experience as a Councilmember and the Mayor of the second largest city in Sacramento County was also a pivotal point. The position of Sheriff of Sacramento County is a political one and understanding the processes and having the relationships needed, and not just the sound bite endorsements, from the first day in office will be critical for the next Sheriff in repairing the damage that has been done to the department over the last four years.

                              And finally, all of you know the importance I place in the 2nd Amendment and the right of the people to protect themselves. I have been assured by Captain Cooper and feel confident in his words that those wishing to protect themselves will be allowed to do so through a commonsense approach to issuing concealed weapons permits based on "Shall Issue" philosophies. I promise those of you who have supported my efforts with this critical issue paramount to that support that I will hold Captain Cooper’s feet to the fire on this one.

                              It is time to reinvent the Sacramento Sheriff’s Department and the best person to do that now is Captain Jim Cooper. That reinvention cannot occur by simply allowing the current Sheriff to ordain his successor, indeed his right-hand man, when it is those very souls that have been the decision-makers and have got us to where we are today. All across America, we are saying no to incumbents and chosen successors. It is time to do the same in Sacramento County and I ask those that supported me to now join me in supporting Captain Jim Cooper as the next Sheriff of Sacramento County.

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                              • #45
                                Frank Scafidi
                                Junior Member
                                • May 2010
                                • 21

                                Bret,

                                Well said, sir. I join in your support of Jim Cooper tomorrow.

                                For everyone, please vote tomorrow if you haven't yet done so. That is our voice and untold numbers have sacrificed their lives to ensure that right for all of us.

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