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ALright I forget according to cali law if I have slugs attached to my buttstock while transporting is that a violation of 12031? Or is it ok because it takes more than 2 movements or whatever..
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^Originally posted by cudakidd
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It's not considered loaded until a live round is actually inside the firearm.sigpic Speaking about the destruction of the United States. "I answer, if it ever reach us, it must spring up amongst us. It cannot come from abroad. If destruction be our lot, we ourselves must be its author and finisher. As a nation of free men, we must live through all times, or die by suicide. Abraham Lincoln Speech at Edwardsville, IL, September 11, 1858
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Ammo on the buttstock of an empty firearm does not make a loaded firearm... People v. Clark. No distinction to type of ammo that I am aware of.
-- Rifle, Pistol, Shotgun
Not a lawyer, just a former LEO proud to have served.
Americans have the right and advantage of being armed - unlike the citizens of other countries whose governments are afraid to trust the people with arms. -- James MadisonComment
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False is the idea of utility that sacrifices a thousand real advantages for one imaginary or trifling inconvenience; that would take fire from men because it burns, and water because one may drown in it; that has no remedy for evils except destruction. The laws that forbid the carrying of arms are laws of such a nature. They disarm only those who are neither inclined nor determined to commit crimes.
-- Cesare Beccaria http://www.a-human-right.com/Comment
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For shotguns and a side-saddle carrier, People v. Clark is DIRECTLY on point.Comment
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There is what is legal and then there is what is "safe". Safe is always legal, and unmistakably so. Now if you have the time to burn, doing the legal thing might be OK. I, however, do not have that much time to allow for being detained, arrested, transported to jail only to be unarrested because it was discovered that I was doing something completely legal, just not obviously so.Comment
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So long as rounds aren't in the magazine tube or the chamber, you're good to go legally.sigpic
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