Not Quite 2A, but Rights Related

[rodeoflyer]

I'm an estimator in the commercial construction business. I have to go to a pre-bid jobwalk that is at a Police/Fire Station. Here is the part of the invite that concerns me -

"All attendees must submit their driver's license / ID's at the job walk. Anyone with outstanding warrants will be arrested immediately."

Is that kosher? I personally have nothing to worry about, but I don't see a need for them to be running everybody for the hell of it.

Discuss....

[creekside]

I'm an estimator in the commercial construction business. I have to go to a pre-bid jobwalk that is at a Police/Fire Station. Here is the part of the invite that concerns me -

"All attendees must submit their driver's license / ID's at the job walk. Anyone with outstanding warrants will be arrested immediately."

Discuss....

As a taxpayer I'm very comfortable with that, especially as they were kind enough to state it up front. Police and fire stations are secure government buildings that contain taxpayer records, dangerous equipment and numbers of highly paid employees, whose on the job injuries must be treated with taxpayer funds. I don't want people with outstanding warrants working within at my expense.

[rodeoflyer]

As a taxpayer I'm very comfortable with that, especially as they were kind enough to state it up front. Police and fire stations are secure government buildings that contain taxpayer records, dangerous equipment and numbers of highly paid employees, whose on the job injuries must be treated with taxpayer funds. I don't want people with outstanding warrants working within at my expense.

So a guy with say - a bench warrant for a simple moving violation - is a security threat or danger to employees?

If the end result was to weed out true potential threats I would be okay with it. To see people get hooked up for lame offenses that have nothing to do with the job or it's security doesn't seem right to me.

[todd2968]

Not a security threat, but a validation of the caliber of person you are letting in your secured area. I'm all for this scanning your license anytime you walk into a state or federal building, would be acceptable to me. You have a right as an American to refuse and not go.

[five.five-six]

you are not compelled legally to bid the job... where are your rights violated?

[ldsnet]

I have seen operations where PD sent out notices the person "won" a vacation or prize. Bring this page and come see us at . . .

Sure enough, people show up to claim what they won, their identity is verifed, then arrested for the outstanding warrant.

Perfectly legal. A perosn submits themselves to law enforcement with an active outstanding warrant, as a taxpaying citizen I would EXPECT law enforcement to take that person into custody.

[Knauga]

I work for a utility and sometimes we have to go into secure locations (jail, PD, FD, prison etc) where they call us to do work for them. Our company policy is to supply COMPANY ID ONLY, if they don't like that they can call us back when they want us.

[2Bear]

I'm all for this scanning your license anytime you walk into a state or federal building, would be acceptable to me. You have a right as an American to refuse and not go.

What if I'm called to jury duty in that building, I don't have to go? Thanks!

[Phouty]

As a taxpayer I'm very comfortable with that, especially as they were kind enough to state it up front. Police and fire stations are secure government buildings that contain taxpayer records, dangerous equipment and numbers of highly paid employees, whose on the job injuries must be treated with taxpayer funds. I don't want people with outstanding warrants working within at my expense.

I wouldn't be happy if my taxpayer records ended up at the local fire station.

[2Bear]

I wouldn't be happy if my taxpayer records ended up at the local fire station.

I would be happy if my taxpayer records ended up on fire.

[anthonyca]

A friend of mine had a co worker arrested at Santa Rita jail. They were contractors and the guy had some warrant. Nothing serious but they had to send two guys there on to pick up his truck and they didn't arrest him until the end of the day from what I was told.

[CHS]

While I do feel that it is their right to do what they are doing, I also feel that it's a major A-Hole move on their part.

If I had a company where they did that to one of my employees (especially if it was at the END of the day, after he had already worked for them), I would pull out of the contract immediately.

Then again, I probably wouldn't bid on a contract from A-Holes like that to begin with.

[HowardW56]

I'm an estimator in the commercial construction business. I have to go to a pre-bid jobwalk that is at a Police/Fire Station. Here is the part of the invite that concerns me -

"All attendees must submit their driver's license / ID's at the job walk. Anyone with outstanding warrants will be arrested immediately."

Is that kosher? I personally have nothing to worry about, but I don't see a need for them to be running everybody for the hell of it.

Discuss....

I have attended many job walks of sheriff/police/fire stations, courthouses, even a prison once. Most have required ID, I don't recall any advising that you would be arrested for outstanding warrants, but no doubt you would.

The worst/most unnerving was a job walk at the California Institution for Men - Chino, they told us that is there is a problem [prisoner riot, etc...] we were on our own, they would attempt to protect us/get us out, but there were no assurances.

About half of the potential bidders, including me, walked out at that point.

[creekside]

I wouldn't be happy if my taxpayer records ended up at the local fire station.

You mean like your address, house plans, fire-related citations . . . sorry, but you'd be amazed what kind of records are created by your local fire department, and how accessible they are to public disclosure. As for non-public records, run forms and patient care records from paramedics are protected by law, but contain lots of confidential medical information.

http://www.sf-fire.org/index.aspx?page=160