Single shot converision questions about caliber.

[Table Rock Arms]

I have been toying with the idea of making some extended barrels and zero shot magazines in order to convert off roster pistols into specs for the single shot exemption. It seems to me that caliber simply does not matter, so I could chamber all of the different barrels in 9mm for example to avoid buying chamber reamers in a bunch of different calibers. Is that correct?

[foxtrotuniformlima]

A 9x19 barrel will fit a 45ACP but not the other way around. It will also work in a 40 S&W.

[loather]

This is correct; there are no caliber restrictions on the single shot exemption.

[bwiese]

I have been toying with the idea of making some extended barrels and zero shot magazines in order to convert off roster pistols into specs for the single shot exemption. It seems to me that caliber simply does not matter, so I could chamber all of the different barrels in 9mm for example to avoid buying chamber reamers in a bunch of different calibers. Is that correct?

Absolutely. In fact cheaper barrel material etc could be used if you chose 25ACP as the caliber. (Small centerfire; 22LR is rimfire and could present some firing challenges without surgery to slide, etc.

If you're trying to have a single-shot pistol imported into CA for transfer to you, please MAKE SURE THE SINGLE-SHOT CONVERSION OCCURS OUTSIDE CA BY THE SUPPLYING FFL. Methinks that it's best that the outside-CA FFL may need a Mfg. FFL as well for his own good.

[Table Rock Arms]

Absolutely. In fact cheaper barrel material etc could be used if you chose 25ACP as the caliber. (Small centerfire; 22LR is rimfire and could present some firing challenges without surgery to slide, etc.

If you're trying to have a single-shot pistol imported into CA for transfer to you, please MAKE SURE THE SINGLE-SHOT CONVERSION OCCURS OUTSIDE CA BY THE SUPPLYING FFL. Methinks that it's best that the outside-CA FFL may need a Mfg. FFL as well for his own good.

I figured since I have an 07 FFL in Oregon that I would be good to go. I do wonder about needing an 07 FFL for this though. The reason I wonder is that if I am technically manufacturing the gun then I will have to pay 10% excise tax on it and the price of the gun would be higher to the buyer. If not then I should be able to get these done at a pretty decent price.

[liketoshoot]

Don't forget barrel length and OAL.
IIRC the barrel must be 6+" and OAL 11"

[bwiese]

I figured since I have an 07 FFL in Oregon that I would be good to go. I do wonder about needing an 07 FFL for this though. The reason I wonder is that if I am technically manufacturing the gun then I will have to pay 10% excise tax on it and the price of the gun would be higher to the buyer. If not then I should be able to get these done at a pretty decent price.

The 07 is to keep the ATF happy.

In various circumstances, ATF has been going after non-mfgr FFLs doing substantial changes to a gun. I think an action-style conversion (single to/from double action revovler, multishot to/from single-shot pistol, caliber change) would all suffice to irritate ATF if an FFL was doing a ton of this business. (Note that this would not included gunsmithing of an individual's gun(s) if those guns were returned to him - but the guns in question in the scenarios we're discussing haven't been 4473'd/DROSed yet.)

[Table Rock Arms]

The 07 is to keep the ATF happy.

In various circumstances, ATF has been going after non-mfgr FFLs doing substantial changes to a gun. I think an action-style conversion (single to/from double action revovler, multishot to/from single-shot pistol, caliber change) would all suffice to irritate ATF if an FFL was doing a ton of this business. (Note that this would not included gunsmithing of an individual's gun(s) if those guns were returned to him - but the guns in question in the scenarios we're discussing haven't been 4473'd/DROSed yet.)

I sort of figured this, however there is a 07 FFL located in California that is doing the conversions, and they claim otherwise according to what they have posted in this site.

Also, it is not just a matter of having an 07 FFL. I have two different bound books. one for guns I buy and sell, and one for guns I manufacture. If ATF pays me a visit and I have not been keeping track of both correctly then I might be in some trouble. Especially when it looks like I'm dodging paying excise tax.

Either way, I will be making a few barrels in the next couple months and we'll see how they turn out. I know there is a case pending in CA that might do away with the roster so I don't plan on doing to many for now. However if there are enough people who want them then I might do more.

[bwiese]

I sort of figured this, however there is a 07 FFL located in California that is doing the conversions, and they claim otherwise according to what they have posted in this site.

I think that would be OK then, but that's pretty rare.
I was writing about generic CA FFLs not doing the conversion.