mailorder handgun ammo in LA county?

[eastershawn]

ok i know in feb. it is going to be illegal to mail order handgun ammo to CALIFORNIA. but i have heard that it is already illegal to mailorder handgun ammo to Los Angeles county. is that true?

[fd15k]

Los Angeles city only, not county.

[HisDivineShadow]

Nope, it is fine for the county. I get ammo all the time from Midway, J&G, AIM, etc. I live in Claremont, which is on the far Eastern edge of LA County, right on the border with San Bernardino County.

[cineski]

Order away!

[MikeH1]

Los Angeles city only, not county.

not illegal in LA City either

[fd15k]

not illegal in LA City either

SEC. 55.11. REQUIREMENTS FOR AMMUNITION SALES.

(Title and Section Amended by Ord. No. 180,447, Eff. 2/2/09, Oper. 6/18/09.)

(a) "Firearm Ammunition" means any self-contained unit consisting of the case, primer, propellant charge, and projectile for use in pistols, revolvers, rifles, shot guns, or any other device designed to be used as a weapon from which is expelled a projectile by the force of explosion or other form of combustion. "Firearm Ammunition" shall not include blank ammunition used solely in the course of motion picture, television, video, or theatrical productions.

(b) The term "vendor", as used in this section, shall mean any person who is engaged in the retail sale of firearm ammunition and retail firearms dealers.

(c) No vendor shall sell or otherwise transfer ownership of any firearm ammunition to any person other than those listed in subsection (g) without at the time of purchase recording the following information on a form to be prescribed by the Board of Police Commissioners:

1. the date of the transaction,

2. the name, address and date of birth of the transferee,

3. the transferee's drivers license or other identification number and the state in which it was issued,

4. the brand, type and amount of ammunition transferred,

5. the transferee's signature, and

6. the name of the sales person who processed the transaction.

The vendor shall also at the time of purchase or transfer obtain the right thumb print of the purchaser or transferee on the above-referenced form.

http://www.amlegal.com/nxt/gateway.dll/California/lamc/municipalcode/chaptervpublicsafetyandprotection?f=templates$fn=d ocument-frame.htm$3.0$q=$x=#LPTOC5.10

[eastershawn]

thanks guys for the info

[RRangel]

SEC. 55.11. REQUIREMENTS FOR AMMUNITION SALES.

(Title and Section Amended by Ord. No. 180,447, Eff. 2/2/09, Oper. 6/18/09.)

(a) "Firearm Ammunition" means any self-contained unit consisting of the case, primer, propellant charge, and projectile for use in pistols, revolvers, rifles, shot guns, or any other device designed to be used as a weapon from which is expelled a projectile by the force of explosion or other form of combustion. "Firearm Ammunition" shall not include blank ammunition used solely in the course of motion picture, television, video, or theatrical productions.

(b) The term "vendor", as used in this section, shall mean any person who is engaged in the retail sale of firearm ammunition and retail firearms dealers.

(c) No vendor shall sell or otherwise transfer ownership of any firearm ammunition to any person other than those listed in subsection (g) without at the time of purchase recording the following information on a form to be prescribed by the Board of Police Commissioners:

1. the date of the transaction,

2. the name, address and date of birth of the transferee,

3. the transferee's drivers license or other identification number and the state in which it was issued,

4. the brand, type and amount of ammunition transferred,

5. the transferee's signature, and

6. the name of the sales person who processed the transaction.

The vendor shall also at the time of purchase or transfer obtain the right thumb print of the purchaser or transferee on the above-referenced form.

http://www.amlegal.com/nxt/gateway.dll/California/lamc/municipalcode/chaptervpublicsafetyandprotection?f=templates$fn=d ocument-frame.htm$3.0$q=$x=#LPTOC5.10

You need a permit to sell peanuts in LA City too. I can still mail order them. I don't remember the antigun city council and mayor ever addressing mail order ammunition. I'm just saying.

[fd15k]

You need a permit to sell peanuts in LA City too. Does that mean I can't order them online?

We've been over this before with SF laws on C&R stuff. Liability goes onto the seller. It's not illegal for you to order/buy, it's illegal for them to sell (without proper record keeping). That's exactly why many vendors say they won't ship to LA. Period.

[AVS]

Indeed, Buffalo Arms will not ship to the city of Los Angeles... but Beverly Hills along with all of the other independent municipalities completely surrounded by the city of Los Angeles are fine. So do you really live in LA, or just "LA"?

On a related note... Is there any sort of litigation in the works specifically regarding this? Or is this issue simply wrapped in with the effort to overturn AB962?

[TheAmmoBroker]

We ship into LA county, but not to an individual in the city of Los Angeles. We have shipped to FFL's in Los Angeles so that they can handle the paperwork and transfer.