HK911 - Legal?, Considered to be HK91? (& 922r Q)

[ptoguy2002]

HK911s are not named, but the HK91s are named in the Roberti-Roos list.
If you know about HKs, all HK911s started life and were imported as HK91s, and then were modified by HK in the US to comply with the import ban that kicked in while they were on the way over, and then restamped HK911.

So knowing this, is an HK911 (properly bullet buttoned, 10 rnd mag) California legal? Iffy status? Or too close for comfort given their history (they were originally HK91s)?

Hate to sound like a snot, but qualified opinions only please.

Thank you much.

ETA: HK911 subject to 922R?

[cdtx2001]

If it's not specifically named on the CA evil rifle list, and sold as something off-list, then all you have to worry about is evil features.

I would say legal.


BTW, I like your avatar.

[bwiese]

HK911 is a different number than HK91.
I believe it should be OK

However....
- if the additional "1" looks different (font/typeface) that might
cause further handwaving ("Omigod he mangled his model#!")
- I presume HK actually did the remarking itself? (Not an importer like SACO etc.?)

[ptoguy2002]

- I presume HK actually did the remarking itself? (Not an importer like SACO etc.?)

I believe that at that point HK USA was importing all of them themselves.

[69Mach1]

I believe these HK 91's were imported and got stuck in customs when the 1989 Federal import ban took effect. The HK 91 was a listed model. In an effort to get these rifles sold in the US, the importer changed the name from HK 91 to HK 911 with ATF approval. Otherwise, the owners of these rifles are in possession of illegally imported assault weapons. There were mods to make it 922r compliant also.

What does that have to do with the CA DOJ AW list? It says a lot when the fed's don't consider it a named assault weapon (HK 91).

[ptoguy2002]

There were mods to make it 922r compliant also.

What does that have to do with the CA DOJ AW list? It says a lot when the fed's don't consider it a named assault weapon (HK 91).

On the 922r, I don't they had any mods for 922r compliance. I don't even think 922r existed then.

ETA: 922r kicked in Nov of 1990. Would the HK911s be subject to 922r??


I suppose that if the feds don't consider it an HK91, then it would be hard for CA to consider it one. Good point.

[ptoguy2002]

WOW - Google is fast. This thread shows up first when I put in HK911 !

[69Mach1]

They had thumbhole stocks added, and the muzzle threads covered for 922r. At that time, the capacity to accept high cap military mags was not a feature.

[Quiet]

The H&K HK911 were configured to comply with Fed 922r.

[dustoff31]

I suppose that if the feds don't consider it an HK91, then it would be hard for CA to consider it one. Good point.

You can't rely on that alone. With the expiration of the Fed AW ban, they don't consider anything an AW. Not so for CA.

But as others have said, HK911 are not listed in CA, and if properly configured, you should be fine.

[69Mach1]

You can't rely on that alone. With the expiration of the Fed AW ban, they don't consider anything an AW. Not so for CA.

But as others have said, HK911 are not listed in CA, and if properly configured, you should be fine.

It's true that the Clinton federal assault weapons ban has expired, but there is still a federal ban on importing assault weapons. The HK 91 is a listed aw by the feds. The HK 911 is not.

[dustoff31]

It's true that the Clinton federal assault weapons ban has expired, but there is still a federal ban on importing assault weapons. The HK 91 is a listed aw by the feds. The HK 911 is not.

I could be wrong, but I believe the import restriction is on guns that have no sporting purpose, or words to that effect. And there are a lot of things on that list that are not assault weapons. I'm not sure the words Assault Weapon even exist in the feds regulatory vocabulary anymore.

[69Mach1]

In addition to the ban on "non sporting" rifles, there is also a list of guns banned by name from being imported.

[badicedog]

The HK 911 series "neutered HK-91" series are 100% Kommiefornia legal to own/DROS given you install a mag lock. However, they are a PITA to deal with the FFL doing the transfer because the "extra" 1 looks like it was done by you outside in the parking lot...lol It would be easier to build up a G3 parts kit. Less headaches and still 95% HK minus the receiver.
you can refer to my post....

http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/showthread.php?t=122100